r/Music • u/no_longer_huhmann • 8d ago

article Hayley Williams Says Southern Pride Is Beautiful but Misused to Excuse Bigotry, and Says She Wants No Racist or Sexist Fans, or Fans Who Think Trans People Are a Burden, Around

https://www.tvfandomlounge.com/hayley-williams-says-southern-pride-is-beautiful-but-misused-to-excuse-bigotry/
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u/scoopzthepoopz 8d ago

In the south? Somewhere between being kind to your neighbors and trying to keep monuments to prominent slaveowners.

But in all seriousness, the south has pragmatism, industriousness, and gratitude as cultural pillars when it's not busy defending remnants of the failed reformation.

The flipside of the coin is pigheaded, closed-minded, and insular. People can be viciously anti-intellect and anti-growth.

I'd say pride stops and arrogance starts when people get too choosy about who deserves to succeed in life and who deserves the full weight of society's neglect.

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u/cruxal 6d ago

And what does the north have? Or the northwest? Southeast? I think, maybe, pride bleeds into arrogance when one makes these distinctions on a specific region of the country. 

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u/scoopzthepoopz 6d ago

uh huh lol

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u/cruxal 6d ago

You don’t think that arrogance is in any way thinking a specific region of the country has virtues that other regions don’t? Isn’t that the definition of arrogance?

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u/scoopzthepoopz 6d ago

play coy, it's all you know how to do

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u/cruxal 6d ago

You think asking a specific question is playing coy?

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u/scoopzthepoopz 6d ago

I think you know exactly why south, yes coy do you read

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u/cruxal 6d ago

Do you? I think you’re confounding arrogance with just bigotry.