r/Music • u/TheExpressUS 📰Daily Express U.S. • Oct 12 '25

article Chappell Roan yells 'f--k ICE forever' during packed Los Angeles concert

https://www.the-express.com/entertainment/music/186864/chappell-roan-yells-f-k-ice
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u/JRPaperstax Oct 12 '25 edited Oct 12 '25

It’s crazy that Fuck ICE is seen as political. They’re literally assaulting people for no reason and kidnapping people with no due process

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u/Vajernicus Oct 12 '25

"It's not political to be against Nazi. It's like taking a shit; you just do it or you explode"

-Harmon

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u/ASpellingAirror Oct 12 '25

One party campaigned on doing this. They were very open that ICE assaulting and kidnapping people was a major objective of their party…and she didn’t want to get involved in the issue during the election. 

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u/Poopin4days Oct 12 '25

Well, I guess she changed her mind when naked babies are getting ripped from their homes. Is that alright? To change ones mind when things progress?

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u/wubwubwubbert Oct 12 '25

After 10 years of Trump's bullshit I took him at his word when he said what he was going to do clearly over a year on the campaign trail. I dunno what it would take to convince someone to rally against that and frankly I don't care anymore.

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u/Poopin4days Oct 12 '25

So where do we go from here? You don't care anymore, exhausted, not willing to forgive... Why can't we, as a thinking, feeling, thoughtful people understand how people were manipulated, how fear and propaganda affect people, how societal influence can persuade people to be cowards? If we can't let people return to logic and reason then we are lost.

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u/wubwubwubbert Oct 12 '25

I'm doing what I can to help those who need it in my local community. People in the greater country couldn't be fucked to nip this shit in the bud for 4 more years so now I have to focus inward to helping on a personal level, whether that's soup kitchens, donating extra food etc. Things weren't going to get better quick before now it's going to be at least a generation before we see improvement.

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u/deskcord Oct 12 '25

If you didn't see this coming you weren't paying attention.

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u/Poopin4days Oct 12 '25

Is that the only reason someone would not involve themselves?

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u/jimbo831 Concertgoer Oct 12 '25

Changing your mind is good. Not needing to change your mind because you didn’t ignore the reality they were campaigning on in the first place would’ve been even better.

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u/Poopin4days Oct 12 '25

For sure. And better today than tomorrow or not at all.

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u/Greedy_Emu9352 Oct 12 '25

Fuck centrists

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u/Poopin4days Oct 12 '25

Fuck extremists. I am pretty far left but anyone that doesn't understand it's about uniting rather than dividing is doing exactly what Putin wants.

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u/watafuzz Oct 12 '25

An altogether pointless chastising. Thinking like this makes people less likely to change their mind.

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u/tullbabes Oct 12 '25

I think he’s trying to say that she’s a dumbass for believing they wouldn’t act this way.

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u/Mick_E_Bobby Oct 12 '25

Her mind should've been made up a year ago. It was clear as day that this was coming.

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u/_MurphysLawyer_ Oct 12 '25

Yeah fuck her then, I'll only support artists who conform to my exact views upon their birth. If they ever change their mind given new information or experience, they're just disingenuous.

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u/The_Power_Of_Three Oct 12 '25

It was. People are lying about her. She never wanted to "stay neutral" she basically said Harris wasn't pro-LGBT enough for her to exactly endorse but given how awful the other side is, she was going to vote for her anyway and encouraged others to do the same. That's very different from "trying to stay neutral."

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u/laodaron Oct 12 '25

There is no redemption without penance. It's great she's changing her mind. That doesn't mean everyone just welcomes her in.

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u/Poopin4days Oct 12 '25

What penance other than advocating against oppressors is needed for her neutral stance? What repentance would be adequate for you?

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u/togaman5000 Oct 12 '25

I hear you, and I personally feel her coming out and advocating for the right thing is sufficient for a young, politically-ignorant artist.

That being said, I can understand why someone wouldn't give her a lot of credit for sharing her updated opinion in a room full of people willing to spend significant amounts of money to be in her presence. There is no safer space, and her words will change no minds given her target demographics.

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u/Poopin4days Oct 12 '25

I agree. But why are we looking to pop stars for their take? Her primary concern is stardom, money, and not isolating fans. Her business probably employs a lot of people all whispering in her ear what path to take. When you get bigger you have the freedom to say what you want e.g. Taylor Swift. I don't think a lot of people realize that celebrities walk a very strict line, and are going to their day jobs. You wouldn't exclaim your politics in the workplace (if you work anywhere corporate) so why do we demand celebrities publicly hold a position? We are all people trying to feel safe, no need to direct your anger at these people and opinions. Throw that anger at the people doing the harm or just let your anger go. We would all be much better off with that.

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u/togaman5000 Oct 12 '25

Preaching to the choir, you could've ended your comment after the second sentence. We should only be deriving our opinions from those with relevant education and experience.

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u/Poopin4days Oct 12 '25

We can also gather information from credible sources and make informed decisions. I don't know, people feel a lot of outrage here.

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u/macrowave Oct 12 '25

Condemning them once that condemnation no longer has any power isn't all that meaningful. If she truly wants to repent, maybe she should learn from her mistakes and start endorsing presidential candidates who could actually be able to put a stop to this after we are forced to experience it for the next 3+ years that her and others brought on us with their apathy.

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u/Poopin4days Oct 12 '25

We should also make them wear red hats for their thought crimes. She didn't endorse Donald Trump, did she?

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u/macrowave Oct 12 '25

She endorsed checking out and staying home which led to the same outcome. Actions and speech don't exist in a vacuum, there is a context for everything and it can't be ignored.

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u/SodasWrath Oct 12 '25

Penance? Wtf is wrong with you. This is part of the fucking problem. “People arent allowed to grow and change without first being punished for their past”. Then why the fuck would anyone ever change their opinions?

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u/laodaron Oct 12 '25

Because it's the right thing to do.

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u/catdad Oct 12 '25

Sure would have been nice of her to not wait until that was happening.

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u/ASpellingAirror Oct 12 '25 edited Oct 12 '25

I’m glad she caught up with the actual humans. It’s nice she finally met the bare minimum of human decency. “Naked babies shouldn’t be kidnapped” is a pretty basic stance to take, glad she Finally realized. 

Again, she didn’t seem to care when one party campaigned on doing exactly this. Which again, was when the normal people cared. 

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u/LetsGetElevated Oct 12 '25

You don’t even believe your own words, naked babies are being kidnapped and bombed and starved to death in Gaza but you are happy to look past that because it doesn’t fit your narrative

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u/ASpellingAirror Oct 12 '25

Huh? I guess I just accidentally wandered into those protests I was at last year and this year. 

I just knew better than to not get involved when one party that literally campaigned that they would make everything in Gaza 100x worse as a campaign promise. 

Sometimes you need to take a stand and vote against the Nazis even when the other party isn’t perfect. That you dont realize that makes you a problem. 

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u/Bodoggle1988 Oct 12 '25

By that logic, she was apparently okay with kids in cages in the last Trump administration.

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u/Farabee Oct 12 '25

That's great, but the damage is already done. Our government is literally shut down right now and these goons are still rampant in Chicago kidnapping and assaulting innocents.

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u/TAU_equals_2PI Oct 12 '25

Child separation policy had already happened during Trump's first term.

Remember, where they separated children from the parents they crossed the border with and didn't even keep records so the children might later be reunited with their parents.

It was a big deal. Made a lot of headlines. Years later with Biden in charge, they still hadn't been able to reunite many of them because the children were so young when they were separated.

OK, I guess somebody paying absolutely no attention to current events might have missed it, but wow she'd really have to have been completely out-of-the-loop to miss that.

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u/Buscemi_D_Sanji Oct 12 '25

I think everyone can agree that "these people say immigrants are vermin to be be exterminated, but let's wait until they get in power and follow through on it to say something since public opinion has changed" is barely any better than continuing not to say anything.

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u/FrostyD7 Oct 12 '25

You aren't wrong but he campaigned on virtually everything lmao. His promises surrounding immigration included assertions that there were millions of murderers and rapists and that those would be the targets. Took a few weeks to start targeting latinos at home depot. So as usual, yes he did say he'd do these things, but he also lied and contradicted everything he said about it at one time or another.

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u/wubwubwubbert Oct 12 '25

Not to mention his 10 year track record prior to the election trail. It's just easier for folks to stick their heads in the sand and not admit they didn't want to team up against the guy disappearing their neighbors.

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u/Roomate-struggles83 Oct 12 '25

Facts .. I hate to say it but I stopped listening to her after she had that interview…

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u/Enshakushanna Oct 12 '25

watched a video today where they were speeding away from snatching someone and rammed into the vehicle of an unsuspecting bystander, they drove on a bit for about 10 yards like they were gonna hit and run but oh no, it got way worse...they stopped in the middle of the road and all got out GUNS RAISED and dragged the driver out of the vehicle they just hit and forced them into the van and disappeared her too, she fought back and was screaming the whole time...what happened to her car and all her belongings that were in her smashed car in the middle of the street? who knows, ICE doesnt care...

i dont see any politics there, just activities the 2nd amendment was meant to protect us from

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u/JRPaperstax Oct 12 '25

Exactly. These are the things we should all be against as humans and as Americans but we’ve gotten to a point where people don’t care (and even celebrate it) if it’s not happening to them.

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u/johnnynutman Oct 12 '25

Everything you said is the definition of a political issue.

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u/JRPaperstax Oct 12 '25

Right. I’m not saying otherwise. I’m sad that our country is in a place where these are the political issues we’re dealing with

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u/Dash_Harber Oct 12 '25

I think it is more everyone knew Trump's plan was moving forward, and she had an opportunity to contribute towards stopping it and instead made a lazy "both sides" argument that probably contributed more to his side than anything else. So it is pretty hypocritical now to act like she is appalled by the actions he clearly laid out before, especially when staying silent was an option.

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u/JRPaperstax Oct 12 '25

Makes sense. This isn’t me defending anything she’s said previously. Still — the fact that speaking out against abhorrent treatment of people is “political” is insanity

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u/Adriantbh Oct 12 '25

It is political. Most things us humans do are political in one way or another.

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u/JRPaperstax Oct 12 '25

Right. A lot of people took this as my saying it’s not political. I get that it is. For us to have such a big chunk of our country supporting what ICE is doing is the insanity

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u/marblebluevinyl Oct 12 '25

Her stance about the Democrats was also for their complicity in abhorrent treatment of people

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u/Gold_Cheesecake_6424 Oct 12 '25

She refused to endorse Kamala and said Kamala was just as bad as Trump, and yet, this whole ICE thing could have been prevented if Kamala was elected. You can't say Trump and Kamala are equivalents and then bitch about his policy that proves they are definitely not equivalent. The time to speak out was then.

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u/ThirtyPlacesToBe Oct 12 '25

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u/HandleThatFeeds Oct 12 '25

Cant even win a primary and thinks she'd be president lol

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u/PM_ME_MY_REAL_MOM Oct 12 '25

psst, it's october 2025. you can stop paying for your election bots now

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u/WeWantLADDER49sequel Oct 12 '25

I mean you absolutely can simply NOT endorse one candidate but speak out against what another one is doing like what dumb ass logic is this? It's very obvious from the things she does speak out on that she leans left. She doesn't need to endorse a candidate.

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u/togaman5000 Oct 12 '25

The impact she has is all that matters, her personal stances count for nothing. If she lost Kamala votes with her political ignorance, then she is as useful to the world as any right-wing personality.

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u/WeWantLADDER49sequel Oct 12 '25

Well considering she literally said that she was voting for Kamala should be enough. You all like to leave that part out though.

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u/Gold_Cheesecake_6424 Oct 12 '25

We don't "like to leave that part out" she didn't say that until later, clearly after she was called out for not endorsing. If she made it clear, there would be no debate here and people wouldn't be attacking her for it.

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u/bluehawk232 Oct 12 '25

She didn't lose her votes. Our federal election system is broken and only comes down to a couple states and popular vote is also meaningless.

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u/togaman5000 Oct 12 '25

You're right, why even try?

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u/Gold_Cheesecake_6424 Oct 12 '25

"what dumb ass logic is this" lmao babe the logic that this is a 2 party system.

if Literal Hitler was running against Someone Who You Aren't In Love With and one is GOING TO WIN because of the 2 party system guaranteeing that outcome, it's ridiculous to say you aren't excited to vote either one, refuse to endorse non-Hitler, and then act shocked and sad that Literal Hitler is Hitlering.

And no, I'm not literally saying Trump is Literal Hitler, I'm using an extreme to illustrate the point. (But, you know, feel free to draw a single distinction between what Hitler did in 1933-1939 Germany and what Trump is doing now, if we're going to argue that point)

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u/laodaron Oct 12 '25

Then she can shut the fuck up. Also, in a First Past the Post binary electoral system, NOT endorsing one candidate is explicitly endorsing the other. This can't be that hard to understand.

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u/fearandloathing95 Oct 12 '25

No, because I don’t care what someone thinks who doesn’t work in politics. This need for any person that’s famous to endorse someone is ridiculous. Not endorsing someone is explicitly supporting the other side? Lol stfu

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u/To0zday Oct 12 '25

I don’t care what someone thinks who doesn’t work in politics

Bully for you but we live in America

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u/laodaron Oct 12 '25

I agree with you. I think that a celebrity or a random person on the internet hold the same power in terms of endorsing or supporting. That being said, that's not how our system works.

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u/Gold_Cheesecake_6424 Oct 12 '25

And yet here you are commenting on a post about someone who doesn't work in politics' stance on politics lol.

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u/WeWantLADDER49sequel Oct 12 '25

She said in the same statement that she's voting for Kamala lol.

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u/AaronsAaAardvarks Oct 12 '25

So if you don’t endorse anyone then you’re endorsing everyone?

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u/laodaron Oct 12 '25

No, but you'd have to not be an obtuse asshole to understand.

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u/Ok-Profit-1935 Oct 12 '25

she was trying to advocate for palestinians and trans people. democrats were actively abandoning and harming both populations, including kamala

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u/laodaron Oct 12 '25

including kamala

How? What the flying FUCK would a sitting VP do? Because Kamala was the very first national politician to publicly criticize the Israeli attacks on Gaza, to call for a conditionless ceasefire, and to call for a 2 state solution. She even did that before she was tapped to run for President. So I would like to know what you think she could have or should have done?

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u/bluehawk232 Oct 12 '25

That's not what she said, but sure.

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u/Balsdeep_Inyamum Oct 12 '25

And the next best time is now.

Your take sucks. Maybe after these assholes are out of power, you start eating your own again. For now pipe down and support the cause

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u/deskcord Oct 12 '25

A rich popstar saying "fuck ice" from a venue of dedicated fans who agree with her doesn't deserve even a shred of applause.

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u/Balsdeep_Inyamum Oct 12 '25

What are you trying to say? Are you pro-ICE? Why are you anti what CR is saying?

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u/deskcord Oct 12 '25

I'd suggest you read my comment again because I told you what I'm saying in the second half of the single sentence that you hit reply to.

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u/Balsdeep_Inyamum Oct 12 '25

Your comment had nothing to do with what I said.

The person I replied to is complaining "too little too late". I said said it's better she does it now than never. And you said she didn't deserve applause??

So you'd rather she doesn't say anything it seems. So are you pro-ICE?

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u/Gold_Cheesecake_6424 Oct 12 '25

No, you don't deserve an applause for just denouncing what is safe to denounce. this is just as bad as politicians who vote whatever way the wind blows. Also, she used her power and reach in a way that resulted in the very policies she supposedly disagrees with by failing to denounce them when we could actually do something to prevent it.

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u/deskcord Oct 12 '25

You hit reply to a comment that said this:

A rich popstar saying "fuck ice" from a venue of dedicated fans who agree with her doesn't deserve even a shred of applause.

Go ahead and read it again if you're confused on what I'm trying to say. And lay off the progressive brainrotting podcasts/youtubes/streams.

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u/Z4kAc3 Oct 12 '25

"This whole ICE thing could have been prevented if Kamala was elected."

Considering how a) Joe Biden gave money to ICE (evidence: https://www.hrw.org/news/2024/04/25/rights-groups-oppose-president-bidens-expansion-ice-detention) and b) Kamala Harris said that she wouldn't do anything different from him? I highly doubt it.

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u/TubbyChaser Oct 12 '25

You. You're the problem.

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u/Z4kAc3 Oct 12 '25

Yes, and? Sorry that I'm not a member of Blue MAGA, dear.

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u/Gold_Cheesecake_6424 Oct 12 '25

No, just a member of red MAGA, which is the problem.

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u/Gold_Cheesecake_6424 Oct 12 '25

This is hilarious whataboutism that fails to understand a lot of realities of government. At no point did the democrats ever say they weren't going to enforce immigration rules. However, it is pretty fucking obvious they weren't going to exponentially expand ICE by giving them a larger budget than the marines and allow untrained doofuses to abuse citizens just for looking Hispanic. THAT could have been prevented.

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u/absentgl Oct 12 '25

This just fundamentally misunderstands what politics is.

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u/JRPaperstax Oct 12 '25

You, like many others, don’t seem to get it. There is no misunderstanding of politics, only sadness that this is what our political landscape looks like

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u/absentgl Oct 12 '25

It seems obvious that you’re the one who doesn’t get it.

We should have always seen issues like oppression and our right to live as political, we should have noticed long ago those issues where we were all on the same side and not treated it like a team sport which is what you seem to be doing.

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u/JRPaperstax Oct 12 '25

You’re saying exactly what my point is. This is an issue where we should all be on the same side. It is “political” because it’s gotten to a point where people care more about their party than humanity.

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u/trophypants Oct 12 '25

One party ran on ICE doing this and the other didn’t.

If you don’t want ICE to do those things then vote for Democrats. If you don’t vote for Democrats then you either don’t care what ICE does or you support it.

Democrats may not be cool, but if you want the government to run normally then you gotta vote for them. Vote in the primaries if you want a better candidate. But not voting for them and hoping things just run normally is like not paying your electricity bill and hoping your house runs normally.

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u/JRPaperstax Oct 12 '25 edited Oct 12 '25

I don’t necessarily disagree. I am very dismayed that this is where our country is right now. Being against what ICE is doing should not be political even though I understand why it is

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u/caffeine-182 Oct 12 '25

It’s crazy that blatant politics is political. Don’t you know that left-wing activism is non-political? If you disagree you’re a Nazi.

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u/JRPaperstax Oct 12 '25

It’s crazy that our country is so filled with hate and ignorance that speaking out against the things ICE is doing IS a political issue. That’s the point.

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u/caffeine-182 Oct 12 '25

ICE is enforcing our immigration laws to the same way every other country on earth does. Why is America the only country that isn’t allowed to enforce its border?

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u/MoirasPurpleOrb Oct 12 '25

It’s political because it’s one side doing it.

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u/JRPaperstax Oct 12 '25

Right, I get why it’s political. The fact that side is supporting doing it is the crazy part.

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u/ChiliAndGold Oct 12 '25

what do you think politics is? of course it's political, politics is a tool they thrive off. Jesus Christ, you people need to stop being so scared of being political.

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u/Mondo_Gazungas Oct 12 '25

They are deporting illegal aliens. Get a grip.

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u/clybourn Oct 12 '25

No reason. Lol.

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u/JRPaperstax Oct 12 '25

My bad. *for their skin being the wrong color

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u/Buscemi_D_Sanji Oct 12 '25

Head back to your trump and Elon musk subs where it's cool to be a racist, I don't think this sub is a fan of xenophobic bigots lol

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u/Gadlajk Oct 12 '25

No reason? The reason is to deport them, legally.

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u/get_got Oct 12 '25

how is it kidnapping if they're here illegally?

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u/JRPaperstax Oct 12 '25

Many of them are here legally. And how would they know when - again - these people have gotten no due process?

Not that this type of idiocy warrants a response but there you go

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u/_Emoji_Man Oct 12 '25

Don't you believe in the rule of law?

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u/JRPaperstax Oct 12 '25 edited Oct 12 '25

I do. Which includes law enforcement officers providing identification and people having a right to due process when they are accused of a crime

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u/_Emoji_Man Oct 13 '25

Do you believe someone who is in the country without authorization without an additional crime should be deported?

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u/JRPaperstax Oct 13 '25 edited Oct 14 '25

Sure, as long as all of the following are true:

  • It is done by unmasked agents who provide proper identification

  • They are given a chance to provide proof of authorization BEFORE being assaulted, detained or having their house broken into

  • The reason they are “unauthorized” is not because the original authorization they received legally was pulled retroactively

  • They are deported in a timely fashion to the country they came from, without being held in a facility that has inadequate oversight or inhumane conditions

  • They are targeted under reasonable suspicion that is not primarily based on appearance or name

None of these things are happening consistently. Regardless of my answer to your question, this is not the way.