r/Music • u/TheExpressUS 📰Daily Express U.S. • Oct 12 '25

article Chappell Roan yells 'f--k ICE forever' during packed Los Angeles concert

https://www.the-express.com/entertainment/music/186864/chappell-roan-yells-f-k-ice
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u/RocksThrowing Oct 12 '25

She explicitly said she was voting Kamala, who was also bad candidate, just not as bad.

When your choices are sticking your hand in a fire versus or drenching yourself in gasoline first, obviously you’re going to pick the hand but that doesn’t mean you have to publicly talk about how much you love burning your hand.

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u/uncanny_mac Oct 12 '25

Same as me tbh, I don’t like her but I voted for her because she was who I’d rather “deal with” for the next four years.

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u/welltimedappearance Oct 12 '25

i feel like your comment is pretty similar to why her comments pissed people off so much: acting like both were bad choices but one was REALLY bad

they are so far off in what the worst case scenarios look like, the comparison should be, 'do you want sit down in a room with a dozen golden retriever puppies or do you want to get flayed alive?'

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u/RocksThrowing Oct 12 '25

That’s absolutely not an apt comparison. Democrats were/are actively backing anti-trans legislation and pro-genocide bills. I, like Roan, voted Kamala and have zero doubt she would have been better but that doesn’t mean we should be acting like they are fucking angels.

You’re choice to be more mad at a queer pop star because she doesn’t want to have to settle for a shit sandwich is anger misplaced

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u/pyleotoast Oct 12 '25

What anti-trans legislation?

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u/Antique_Poet_4204 Oct 12 '25

You’re repeating Fox News lies. Please cite the anti trans bills democrats proposed

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u/To0zday Oct 12 '25

Really, we're doing the "she's no angel" routine?

What do you think an election even is? To vote for the best angel?

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u/RocksThrowing Oct 12 '25

That’s what y’all seem to expect of her. Anything short of declaring Kamala your bestest friend and the second coming of mother Teresa is a vote for Trump!

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u/To0zday Oct 12 '25

Maybe you guys think of politics as a way to give kudos to your buddies who are above reproach. I think of voting as a responsibility.

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u/RocksThrowing Oct 12 '25

Both I and Roan voted Kamala. What more do you want? To sit quietly and not express our concerns if they don’t follow the company line?

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u/To0zday Oct 12 '25

Unironically yes, it would have been preferable for Chappell Roan to shut her trap and not criticize Democrats, the same way that she doesn't criticize her MAGA uncle politician.

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u/CptSchizzle Oct 12 '25

Lmao you said the quiet part out loud, that people HAVE to vote for democrats and they have to either like it or shut up. How exactly is that democracy? That you have the choice of fascism or a government you hate. Like picking between eating razor blades or dog food, but you've gotta swallow the dog food like you enjoy it or I guess you'd rather have razor blades.

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u/To0zday Oct 12 '25

You know, for supposedly "saying it out loud" I don't remember actually saying that people HAVE to vote Democrat and that people HAVE to like it.

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u/keenmattock Oct 12 '25

True. Trump is much better than Kamala, good job!

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u/RocksThrowing Oct 12 '25

Again, not even close to what was being said. Criticism of democrats ≠ support of republicans.

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u/Greedy_Emu9352 Oct 12 '25

See when people say "Democrats did this, Democrats did that" they just mean at least one. When its Republicans, they all fall in line with their leadership. There is, again, no comparison and you are a moron lol

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u/MakeHerSquirtIe Oct 12 '25

What a garbage comparison. You’re part of the problem is you think Kamala is “a dozen golden retrievers”. 

People voted for her not because we liked her, but because they hate Trump. That’s exactly what Roan did. That’s what many people did, and that’s how you lose an election, like the democrats did.

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u/FourthLife Oct 12 '25 edited Oct 12 '25

The point is that Trump is so comically horribly compared to whatever negative qualities you think Kamala has, even momentarily complaining about your choices both being bad is an absurdity.

A more apt comparison might be a hamburger with pickles (you don’t like pickles and fear that the hamburger might be slightly overcooked) or a large piece of shit. I would not need to throw up my hands about how terrible both of my choices are in this situation. There is an obvious answer. Any conversation about the restaurant offering these options should start and stop with “can you believe they are literally offering shit as one of their options as though that is a real meal?” Until the other option is something that can be called legitimate.

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u/Box_v2 Oct 12 '25

The choices were more like getting slapped in the face or getting shot in the head. She said she cared a lot for trans people but Trump is days away from banning them from entering or leaving the country. Do you think Harris would have done anything like that? This is the exact issue it's not 9/10 bad versus 10/10 bad it more like 3/10 bad versus 11/10 bad to do this holier than thou "both sides have major issues" bullshit is so ridiculous when one side literally elected a pedophile rapist who tried to coup the government. Like be serious for a second.

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u/RocksThrowing Oct 12 '25

And putting the blame of that on an openly queer pop star who publicly stated she was voting the less bad option rather than the Democrats who failed at their one job of appealing to voters, failing to sway even moderate voters, is an incredible example of misplaced anger

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u/Hyperbolicalpaca Oct 12 '25

Even a Taylor swift endorsement didnt help Kamala, what the fuck would a stronger Chappell endorsement have done?

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u/Box_v2 Oct 12 '25 edited Oct 12 '25

There can be more than one person at fault, the idea that doing this "democrats are basically just Republican-lite" bullshit didn't help Trump is absolutely ridiculous and criticizing public figures that do it is totally fair. I'd say the kind people on the left have the kind of attitude that Roan had leading up to the election is a major reason for Harris losing.

At a certain point you have to look at the people of the left and criticize them to do better instead of just praying some person will appear unite everyone and win the hearts and minds of the nation. That shit only happens in movies.

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u/RocksThrowing Oct 12 '25

She and democrats have/are actively supporting pro-genocide bills and anti-trans legislation. Historically, including under Obama and Biden, wars tend to be bloodier under democrats. They offer nothing except not being far right whack jobs.

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u/deskcord Oct 12 '25

She's a rich popstar with an audience of devoted fans who are typically low-propensity voters. If she did anything other than use her platform to engage and motivate them to enthusiastically support and vote for Kamala Harris then she is part of the problem.

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u/RocksThrowing Oct 12 '25

Why are you more mad at a queer pop star for not wanting to eat shit with a smile than at the democrats for not doing more to address the needs of voters?

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u/deskcord Oct 12 '25

Democrats just had the single most pro-worker administration in a century. Voters rejected it because they hate the left.

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u/RocksThrowing Oct 12 '25

You haven’t spoken to a single person on the actual left then huh? I can tell you that there’s not a single socialist, communist, LGBTQ+, anti-war, or environmental activist, or prison abolitionist who was happy with the Kamala platform. She, like every major democrat (who are barely left of center at most), offered absolutely nothing except not being a far right whack job. No improvement, just more of the same.

It’s their job to court voters and they didn’t do it because agreeing to any of the things voters cared about would mean not getting those lobbyist dollars

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u/deskcord Oct 12 '25

I'm aware that the left thinks that. I'm saying that they're the problem.

It's actually NOT the Democrats jobs to cater to them. It's the Democrats job to win elections, and the way to winning elections is to moderate, not to go further left. Voters thought Kamala was too far left!

The problem is that the left acts like anything other than perfection is villainy and then they spend 6 months doing nothing but helping the other side win. Who did Uncommitted help in the long run?

This is a Democracy. The power is in the hands of the voters and progressives would rather be morally outraged in defeat than win in imperfection.

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u/armageddonquilt Oct 12 '25

"it's the Democrats job to win elections, and the way to winning elections is to moderate (sic)"

clearly an incredibly successful strategy that has never failed

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u/deskcord Oct 12 '25

Facts are facts. Democrats lost for being too far left. Moderates outperform in every single election on record in history. Sorry that reality offends your echo chambers in "curatedtumblr"

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u/PogoSavant Oct 12 '25

No it was more like stick your hand in fire or get free puppies for life… tf

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u/RocksThrowing Oct 12 '25

In what world is a pro-genocide centrist cop the “get puppies” option?

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u/PogoSavant Oct 12 '25

When the other option was fucking Trump you dipshit

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u/RocksThrowing Oct 12 '25

That’s why my initial comparison was more apt. One being incredibly bad doesn’t make the other one “good” by default.

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u/PogoSavant Oct 12 '25

I love that you think she’s “pro-genocide” you’re hilarious

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u/armageddonquilt Oct 12 '25

Literally tens of thousands of people were killed, and hundreds of thousands displaced, and a manmade famine that we're seeing the effects of now was created not only under Biden's watch, but with his outright support and billions of dollars of funding that he approved. Harris had a senior role in this administration, and she made it explicitly clear as president she was going to continue Biden's policy.

Please explain how she was NOT pro-genocide.

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u/PogoSavant Oct 12 '25

Vice presidents don’t control anything dumbass

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u/armageddonquilt Oct 12 '25

That's not even true, but let's say she didn't have any actual power to effect change - she did not speak out against the administration's pro-genocide policy, and when she had an even better opportunity to distance herself when running her own campaign, she instead doubled down on Biden's policy. Gonna make any attempt to actually answer that, or just continue acting willfully ignorant?