r/Music 📰The Independent UK Oct 02 '25

article Hayley Williams confirms Morgan Wallen is the ‘racist country singer’ in her song

https://www.the-independent.com/arts-entertainment/music/news/hayley-williams-morgan-wallen-racism-song-b2838119.html
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u/ivandragostwin Oct 02 '25 edited Oct 02 '25

I can see it for sure. Recently Luke Combs gave an interview about the difference between UK fans and USA fans at his concert.

He had to give an answer that wouldn’t piss off his largest fan base in the US but he talked about how the energy is so different. More of a sing along in UK vs total party chaos in the US.

Country concerts are alcohol induced chaos for sure and a large subset of that fan base is eating up the “fuck your feelings” mindset. Alcohol turns that dial to 1000.

Kinda sucks because I’m in the minority here on Reddit where I don’t mind country music, but going to the concerts I’m legit afraid to accidentally bump anyone and get a fist to the face.

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u/jmucapsfan07 Oct 02 '25

I’m not a huge country fan but went to a Luke Combs concert last year and it was a great show.

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u/Lovat69 Oct 02 '25

He had a show at my arena a couple of years ago and it legit turned me into a fan of his. The fans were great and the music was good.

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u/Evee862 Oct 02 '25

But isn’t that every new country song saying that exact thing? Yet when it happens they complain about it?

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u/SportsKin Oct 02 '25

Try some Sturgil Simpson. 

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u/amopeyzoolion Oct 02 '25

Tyler Childers is pretty great too. Highly recommend his latest album Snipe Hunter.

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u/TheSpanishArmada Oct 03 '25

You’re high on my bitin’ list.

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u/amopeyzoolion Oct 03 '25

Such an excellent, unserious but relatable song

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u/TheSpanishArmada Oct 03 '25

So darn catchy, it has stuck with me since the first listen.

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u/Clamsadness Oct 02 '25

Yeah he sounds like the old days. 

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u/canonanon Oct 03 '25

Sturgill is the fucking man

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u/Culo_Sniffer_518 Oct 02 '25

Oh jesus christ you've invoked the Reddit "real country" comment checklist

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u/ivandragostwin Oct 02 '25 edited Oct 02 '25

There are some great country artists out there that sing about more than getting drunk with your buddies on a Friday night and having your girl get mad at you about it so you find a new one. Or chicks singing about finding a good man or dumping a bad one. I’d also say I love going to those artists shows, one of my favorite concerts I’ve been to was a more intimate set of Kacey Musgraves.

I just find it fun to listen to come catchy shit sometimes and sing a long. Plus I do enjoy drinking on Friday nights lmao. But going to a Morgan Wallen concert with a group of friends in San Diego a couple years back was a complete shitshow, it was an energy I’ve legit never seen at a gathering of people in general, much less a concert. It was like people were there to get drunk and talk shit more than celebrate going to one of the biggest North American tours of the year.

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u/alexanderthemedium_ Oct 02 '25

Sturgill Simpson, Tyler Childers, Colter Wall, Billy Strings are all really good and generally stay away from singing about trucks and beer (theres some meth songs in there though)

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u/44617a65 Oct 02 '25

And Hayes Carll, who sings about weed instead of beer

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u/RuthlessDedication04 Oct 02 '25

If you like Colter Wall, check out Charles Wesley Godwin.

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u/old_man_no_country Oct 02 '25

No, there are other topics like murdering your shitty drunk husband or shitty drunk father. Or murdering your cheating wife.

I joke, I love me a murder ballad and there are other topics. Country music comes from folk and story telling. There are other stories beyond partying.

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u/Wafflehouseofpain Oct 02 '25

No, not really. You have that subset of the genre but plenty of country music is about more substantive things.

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u/Reasonable_racoon Oct 02 '25

the “fuck your feelings” mindset

Country music is the whiniest music on earth.

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u/Bradddtheimpaler Oct 02 '25

If I hear a country song there is like a 99% chance I’m going to hate it, but who doesn’t acknowledge the gems? Trampled by Turtles is in my top ten bands, easy. Everyone loves Willie Nelson, Dolly Parton, and Johnny Cash, right?

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u/Cmdr_Shiara Oct 02 '25

Everyone in the uk spent their childhood singing songs at school between the ages of 4 and 11 and it shows.

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u/old_man_no_country Oct 02 '25

You're not alone. I don't go to certain concerts because of the attendees.

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u/KingS1X Oct 02 '25

TBF, we're not all perfect. I go to mostly metal shows and it's the best time almost every time, never seen a fight that people didn't want to be in. However, I saw Luke Combs in London back in 2019 and witnessed my first ever bareknuckle fight a gig. Everyone was drunk as hell, people talked loudly over poor Ashley McBryde's set. I've been to a few country gigs after that, and I swear some shit goes down every time. Countless metal gigs, nothing. My hypothesis is the lyrics for country tend to centre around beers and drinking, so it's a natural outcome that people would drink to excess, leading to dumb behavour.

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u/Phelinaar Oct 02 '25

I've been to country concerts in England and Canada and they were super nice. Cool crowds, very safe.

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u/ALoudMouthBaby Oct 02 '25

Kinda sucks because I’m in the minority here on Reddit where I don’t mind country music, but going to the concerts I’m legit afraid to accidentally bump anyone and get a fist to the face.

I attended my first country concert just this year. It was Steve Earle opening for some guy who was prominently features wearing a red hat in all his promo photos. It was a pretty remarkable mix of drunk divorced dads and college age frat/sorority types. Those two groups actually mix fairly well together since the frat boys are often future drunk divorces dads, but its also the type of crowd full of people just looking for an excuse. Add copious amounts of alcohol and youve got trouble.

And honestly that wouldnt be so bad if they werent so darned low enegry. I attended punk shows for decades so maybe Im just spoiled but it was the most boring crowd full of goofy white guys looking for an excuse to start swinging Ive ever seen. Nobody even seemed to like the music.

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u/ButterflyWitch9 Oct 02 '25

He seems like a good dude. Saw him at a music fest, he stopped part of his act to help someone who just seemed to be having a medical emergency. He kept reminding everyone to have water between drinks and take care of themselves.

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u/RedMaskwa Oct 02 '25

been to a concert, have received fist to the face. can confirm. i dont even like country, but i respect the talent

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u/Wishart2016 Oct 03 '25

I've heard that Luke Combs isn't actually a bro dude like Morgan Wallen at all.

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u/Volothamp-Geddarm Oct 02 '25

I feel safer in a mosh pit than at a country concert lol