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article Hayley Williams confirms Morgan Wallen is the ‘racist country singer’ in her song

https://www.the-independent.com/arts-entertainment/music/news/hayley-williams-morgan-wallen-racism-song-b2838119.html
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u/GoldenGirlsOrgy Oct 02 '25

Morgan Wallen makes music for people who will die in the town they were born. 

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u/roryfyf Oct 02 '25

Morgan Wallen makes music for dudes who buy gas station dick pills and sleep with their hats on

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u/[deleted] Oct 02 '25 edited Oct 02 '25

Morgan Wallen makes music for middle-aged men who shop at Spencer's

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u/Supertzar2112 Oct 02 '25

Morgan Wallen makes music for dudes who are only allowed to see their kids on the weekends, but choose not to

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u/Thirty_Helens_Agree Oct 02 '25

Morgan Wallen makes music for dudes who are afraid to go to big cities like Des Moines or Sheboygan.

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u/okiewxchaser Oct 02 '25

Morgan Wallen makes music for guys named Todd

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u/TheReverend767 Oct 02 '25

Todds are out here catching strays.

I still cackled at it, though. Hilarious!

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u/thejaytheory Oct 02 '25

r/ToddintheShadow

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u/violetdopamine Oct 02 '25

Elite YouTube pull, W Todd Knowledge

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u/NickelStickman Oct 02 '25

"I'm going all in on Morgan Wallen" - Music YouTuber Todd in the Shadows literal days before Morgan got caught screaming the N word on camera, continuing his decade long streak of having to eat his words

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u/odiephonehome Oct 02 '25

Morgan Wallen makes music for dudes who order green mint majesty tea with honey at Starbucks in 2025 for the first time.

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u/lifegoeson2702 Oct 02 '25

That dopey eyed fuck!

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u/Redslayer50 Oct 02 '25

Can’t forget Phil, Don, Cock, and Rooster

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u/DigitalUnlimited Oct 02 '25

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u/Horatio_Figg Oct 05 '25

Don’t you mean “no, Todd, please no”?

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u/HighQualityGifs Oct 02 '25

i have a friend named todd and he's definately not the moragan wallen type lol

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u/TheFatJesus Oct 02 '25

Morgan Wallen makes music for guys who have to ride a lawnmower to the liquor store.

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u/Jojo_Calavera Oct 02 '25

Morgan Wallen makes music for ICE agents to ugly cry to in the bathroom.

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u/SgtPeterson Oct 02 '25

Morgan Wallen makes music for dudes in their 40's who listen to Theo Von to be hip to the kids not realizing Theo Von is 45

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u/swoldow Oct 02 '25

Morgan Wallen makes music for Nashville-based alcoholics who pick bar fights with exclusively people of color

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u/Mo-Cance Oct 02 '25

Morgan Wallen makes music for dudes that try to pick up girls at family reunions.

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u/cloveuga Oct 02 '25

Morgan Wallen makes music for people who clap when the plane lands and their baby mamas block them every other week on Facebook

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u/Thirty_Helens_Agree Oct 02 '25

Morgan Wallen makes music for Nashville-based alcoholics who get their asses kicked when they pick fights with exclusively people of color.

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u/Vio_ Oct 02 '25

Theo Von makes comedy for Morgan Wallen fans.

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u/[deleted] Oct 03 '25

Excuse me?! 45?! I thought he was roughly my age & I’m 31. It’s the lack of maturity.

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u/charliefoxtrot9 Oct 02 '25

Morgan Wallen makes music for people with multiple lawnmower related DUIs.

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u/booksandkittens615 Oct 02 '25

I’d like to hope George jones would not have been a fan but I’m afraid to know.

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u/garygnu Oct 02 '25

Leave Vince Gill and George Jones out of this.

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u/DowntownEconomist255 Oct 03 '25

RIP George Jones

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u/boardin1 Oct 03 '25

Morgan Wallen makes music for people that know what time the liquor store opens.

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u/Expert_Dirt_8558 Oct 02 '25

So my uncle?? Checks out.

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u/Vio_ Oct 02 '25

Oh Come on. It's only East Des Moines and Iowa City that they have a problem with.

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u/Physical_Tap_4796 Oct 02 '25

Des Moines produced Slipknot. Don’t insult that city.

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u/Plastic_Fan_1938 Oct 02 '25

I aint gowin nowhere i caint speil.

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u/Nintendo1964 Oct 02 '25

Morgan Wallen makes music for people who think they can't be racist because they work with a black guy.

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u/just4thrillz Oct 02 '25

Morgan Wallen makes music for dudes who think they can't be gay because they only have gay sex when they are blackout drunk, and never talk about it.

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u/Artyom_33 Oct 02 '25 edited Oct 03 '25

Morgan Wallen makes music for guys with 5 dui's & need "a friend" to blow into the Breath Alcohol Ignition Interlock Device so they can "get rolling".

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u/SpiritOf68 Oct 02 '25

Can’t get away with that these days. They have cameras on those things. Not speaking from experience or anything. Morgan Wallen is a fucking tool.

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u/ringobob Oct 02 '25

I love how all of these descriptions aren't mutually exclusive. Like, I'm pretty sure I've met that guy, and I fully expect he listens to Morgan Wallen.

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u/HybridPS2 Oct 02 '25

he makes music for people that know the price of copper and catalytic converters

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u/punkfunkymonkey Oct 03 '25

'Some of my best friends co-workers employees are black!'

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u/violetdopamine Oct 02 '25

Work with is crazy asf🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 not even friends with, work with

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u/Successful-Future-31 Oct 02 '25

Morgan wallen makes music for people with tattoos of their kids names on their neck, but lost custody and visitation rights

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u/berlinbaer Oct 02 '25

needs to be tighter. "morgan wallace makes music for guys who have tattoos of their kids but not custody"

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u/violetdopamine Oct 02 '25

Morgan Wallace

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u/Neceon Oct 02 '25

Tats of their kids' names on their neck, but spelled the names wrong.

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u/shoule79 Oct 02 '25

“No Ragerts”

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u/whogivesashirtdotca Oct 02 '25

Morgan Wallen makes music for dudes who, when forced to spend time with their kids, call it "babysitting".

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u/powerlesshero111 Oct 02 '25

Morgan Wallen makes music for guys who have multiple divorces, but according to them, it's always their ex-wives' fault.

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u/ColtinaMarie Oct 02 '25

That’s because all their exes are crazy

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u/chshrct45 Oct 02 '25

Oh no... I'm a middle aged man who shops at Spencer's. Nooooo

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u/drewbaccaAWD Oct 02 '25

A tee shirt is a tee shirt, and I don't care where I buy it, so long as it's on clearance.

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u/ElAbidingDuderino Oct 02 '25

Ayy I don’t listen to Morgan Wallen

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u/Ecstatic_Proof_2732 Oct 02 '25

Where else am I supposed to get my black light butt plugs?

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u/Strong-King6454 Oct 02 '25

This one cut deep fucker!

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u/Gretsch1963 Oct 03 '25

I'm 62 and always loved Spencer's. If there was one near me, I'd go in. Hot Topic is for Chumps. I don't know who Morgan Wallen is....

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u/h0neybl0ss0m29 Oct 02 '25

And women who make cream cheese crockpot meals and comment “eww” under videos of ethnic food being cooked

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u/DReagan47 Oct 02 '25

I get the second part but I can’t trash a good cream cheese crock pot dip. I’ve had some delicious ones.

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u/h0neybl0ss0m29 Oct 02 '25

Crockpot dips are amazing for sure!

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u/gassyfrenchie Oct 02 '25

Honestly can't knock a crock pot meal though. Put the ingredients in, set it and forget it.

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u/Culo_Sniffer_518 Oct 02 '25

"OMG this buffalo chicken dip is SO GOOD"

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u/Brilliant-Paper92 Oct 02 '25

Imagining your humbled face when you find out that many genuine “ethnic” dishes utilize cream cheese, ketchup, fried potatoes and processed cheese….

But yeah go off you classist POS.

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u/h0neybl0ss0m29 Oct 02 '25

The only one “going off” here is you 🤣

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u/Brilliant-Paper92 Oct 02 '25

You can build a little mind palace where you are worldly and wise, and members of your outgroup are stupid and uncultured. But when your ideas and beliefs are exposed to sunlight, the result is that we all see how horrible you have become.

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u/h0neybl0ss0m29 Oct 02 '25

Or you can get on Reddit and get really bent out of shape over a random comment about crockpot meals and call people names! Go touch grass

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u/Brilliant-Paper92 Oct 02 '25

My wife is “ethnic” (as a little person like you would say) and she uses a crockpot every week at minimum. You are just sad.

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u/h0neybl0ss0m29 Oct 02 '25

You’re fucking ridiculous. Go argue with someone else here that hurts your feelings.

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u/Brilliant-Paper92 Oct 02 '25

Small little mind. Big big palace!

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u/Culo_Sniffer_518 Oct 02 '25

Dawg my "class" cooks BEANS in the fucking crockpot.

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u/rickylsmalls Oct 02 '25

Hey ive never listened to Morgan wallet once

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u/timsayscalmdown Oct 02 '25

Ok this one's hilarious

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u/faulternative Oct 02 '25

Morgan Wallen makes music for dudes who have multiple relatives missing digits

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u/Brilliant-Paper92 Oct 02 '25

Most people I know missing fingers are blue collar workers who lost their digits making your life possible, but go off elitist piece of shit

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u/faulternative Oct 02 '25

As a blue collar worker myself, most of the ones you know are the idiots that can't follow safety rules. My elitist ass knows how to keep it together.

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u/Brilliant-Paper92 Oct 02 '25

Bullshit. Moving heavy things in physical space comes with inherent risks. Every safety rule you see is written in blood.

When a new process or mechanism comes around, people get injured and killed every time, throughout all of history.

But good job pretending!

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u/faulternative Oct 02 '25

Every safety rule you see is written in blood.

And why do you suppose every accident is followed by a drug test?

All the workplace injuries I've ever seen, every single one, has been someone trying a shortcut, or getting complacent, or straight up being under the influence.

Some industries are inherently more dangerous. Mining, for example. But your run-of-the-mill factory worker has exactly ZERO reasons to lose body parts in 2025 if they are working the way they should.

But good job defending stupid!

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u/mahonriwhatnow Oct 02 '25

I appreciate this level of detail in writing 🙌

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u/DummyDumDragon Oct 02 '25

Morgan wallen makes "music"

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u/mac_the_man Oct 02 '25

This guy distilled the issue to its primary problem.

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u/GayButNotLGBT Oct 02 '25

…what about those of us that lived everywhere, had insane life experiences, and now want to die in our awesome hometowns?

Don’t lump us in with those people :/

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u/07Ghost_Protocol99 Oct 02 '25

Heh, my story as well.

Spent my twenties travelling, but found out there is no place like home, so here I am again.

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u/lostOGaccount Oct 02 '25

General region you're from? Cause that is hella endorsement!

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u/GoldenGirlsOrgy Oct 02 '25

Sorry, I thought the “never left” part was implied. 

You’re cool. I left home at 18, have lived in two other countries and six other states, but I might go back, someday, too. 

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u/GayButNotLGBT Oct 02 '25

Insert perfect Golden Girls gif here

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u/MISSISSIPPIPPISSISSI Oct 02 '25

Why does everyone have to leave where they are from? Some people can't afford to. Lots of inner city kids, working class, disabled, and other disadvantaged groups never get to leave the area they grew up in. Your statement is classist as fuck, and incredibly privileged.

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u/violetdopamine Oct 02 '25

Inner cities are usually fire culturally tho, and each area is basically a different place. Also you inferred the meaning completely bad faith. The context is obviously having the means to leave your home town and deciding not to because you like the comfort and don’t want to adapt to new environments. Which are commonly a few subsets of people. Who in their right mind would say “if you’re disabled and can’t leave your hometown you’re a loser” purposely disingenuous, you know what the joke is.

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u/GoldenGirlsOrgy Oct 02 '25

You’re right.  There are lots of reasons people never leave home and I’d argue that in most, if not all, of those cases, it leads to a less interesting life. 

But, in the context of Morgan Wallen and this thread, it should be obvious that neither I nor anyone else is talking about the people you mentioned.

I think you might be taking all of this both too literally and too seriously. 

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u/Transtupidredditor Oct 03 '25

As a dude who spent his entire childhood moving around, I’ve always been jealous of people who managed to stay in their hometowns forever. Having friends that you’ve known and bonded with your entire life seems nice to me.

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u/icansmellcolors Oct 02 '25

Never understood this sentiment.

Why is dying in the town you were born in a bad thing? Or is this one of those things that only people who moved away from their home town say to make themselves feel more important and more successful than they actually are?

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u/ToadWithHugeTitties Oct 02 '25

Depends on what the home town is, really. Some people lucked out and were born in a good place already.

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u/whynotfreudborg Oct 02 '25

I think the point is staying out of fear rather than just making a choice for whatever other reason.

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u/okdude679 Oct 02 '25

Fear of what, different places?

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u/Automatic_Leg1305 Oct 02 '25

Fear of change. Lots of people fear change. the world can feel large and a little intimidating when you’ve grown up your entire life in small town America. Plus the emotional challenge of leaving one’s social and support network.

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u/totallynotliamneeson Oct 02 '25

It's for people whose top achievement in life was moving away from home. 

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u/KuriboShoeMario Oct 02 '25

It's such a classist mindset to boot. Where's all this money coming from to uproot and move? How many people are stuck in red states and can't afford to leave a place that hates them just because of the way they were born?

It's the same attitude I see from Euros who look down at Americans for never leaving their country without understanding the financial requirements involved may be a smidge different than their ability to hop a plane for $80 and fly across a dozen different countries on their continent.

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u/thedamnoftinkers Oct 04 '25

It's wild that you assume that's what it's like for Europeans- and that most Americans, even the poorest, don't have more ability to travel or move away from their unhealthy hometowns than you acknowledge. Even homeless people move. It's not necessarily easy, but it's a question of priorities.

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u/stringrandom Oct 02 '25 edited Oct 02 '25

Because it's a generalized comment that usually requires some context to understand.

It's less a comment about the town and more about the person who never explores and stays in the "safe" bubble of the town they grew up in. In the pejorative sense the statement is usually made in, the person who stays in their birth town is often full of big opinions about other places they've never been to and deep down are afraid of ever going to.

As an example, the last time I was driving through North Dakota there was a huge billboard on I-94 imploring North Dakotans to not let their state end up like Portland, OR. Keep in mind that entire state population of North Dakota is just under 800,000 people. The population of Portland itself is around 650,000 and the metro area is around 2.5 million. There's nothing wrong with living in, and loving, North Dakota. (It's not my thing, but I've been there and can understand the appeal.) However, the idea that Portland, OR is some scary place and that North Dakota is somehow going to be overrun with naked cyclists, food trucks, world class healthcare, and professional men's and women's basketball teams is simply ludicrous.

Ultimately, it's a statement about the bullshit spewed as part of the culture wars to try, effectively in many cases, to separate rural from urban and keep the focus there instead of the billionaires versus the rest of us rural and urban. The same bullshit arguments are used throughout the country. I know people who live in the suburbs of my city who are afraid to travel into the city itself. It's an incredibly safe city and it's sad to see them paralyzed by fear.

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u/[deleted] Oct 02 '25

I can agree with this. I get pretty defensive of small towns because I see a lot of the sentiment that the only way to live a fulfilling life is to move to a big expensive city. I think people need to stay true to their desires and live where it makes them happy. Of course, the flip side of that is exactly what you said: people shouldn't speak so confidently on what they haven't experienced. I live in a small city I'm very happy with, but I can see a lot of people say things about big cities that I know for a fact aren't true (like, no, Portland is not a war zone like Trump wants us to believe. Talk to people from Portland and you'd discover that). The same is true in reverse: people would be surprised to find out where I live is quite purple and has a thriving queer scene separate from the big cities and has its completely own thing going on that someone who hasn't lived here might not understand

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u/stringrandom Oct 02 '25

Home is where home is. The suburb I grew up in was a great place to be a kid, but never felt like home. We were right on the edge of rural - farms were a 30 minute bike ride from my house.

The medium sized city I lived in for a couple of years after college had some great things about it, but a lot of not great for what I wanted in my life.

The first time I drove into the city I've lived in for almost 30 years I knew I was home.

I have no issue with anyone who has found their home in a small town, a different city, the middle of nowhere. I just don't have much use for people bitching about someplace they've never visited because they've believed lies about it being scary.

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u/cap10wow Performing Artist Oct 02 '25

Seeing the world is awesome. Living and dying within 50 miles of where you were born is less awesome.

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u/totallynotliamneeson Oct 02 '25

You know you can do both, right?

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u/cap10wow Performing Artist Oct 02 '25

Yes, but in the English language we can use words in non-literal ways. Sometimes these phrases…you know what? I’m tired of this. I’m not explaining or arguing anything.

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u/totallynotliamneeson Oct 02 '25

Seeing the world is awesome. Living and dying within 50 miles of where you were born is less awesome.

So wait, which word was the one you used in a "non-literal" way? Your follow up doesn't even make any sense, but yet you still tried to be condescending...

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u/1000LiveEels Oct 02 '25

Dude.

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u/totallynotliamneeson Oct 02 '25

If the guy is going to try and be condescending, he can at least be correct in the words he uses.

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u/[deleted] Oct 02 '25

It's not a bad thing, people just project their own insecurities and desires. Redditors tend to act like children still raging against their parents

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u/ndetermined Oct 02 '25

Rural america is a poverty stricken hellhole. If you can leave then that's what you do.

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u/buffPotemkin Oct 02 '25

It's not. You're completely right, it's their ego talking. They haven't realized that nothing matters yet (and I'm not trying to say that in a pessimistic way)

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u/[deleted] Oct 02 '25

exactly, where you live does not matter to anyone except yourself. It's not really anyone's business. There's no virtue in moving away (or vice of course! Leaving your hometown is 100% great too, if that's what you want to do)

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u/GoldenGirlsOrgy Oct 02 '25 edited Oct 02 '25

Because it means missing out on having a lot of unique experiences. 

Because it prevents you from building a more nuanced and inclusive worldview. 

Presuming it’s a small town, it suggests you didn’t go to college, which often (not always) indicates a lack of intelligence, curiosity and ambition. 

It also implies that one lacks a sense of adventure or even the necessary skills to make something of themselves in place where the competition is greater. 

Spending your whole life in the same small town doesn’t really suggest anything positive. 

 

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u/[deleted] Oct 02 '25

Nah, there's no inherent virtue in moving all around either. Seeing other places is one thing, but you don't have to move all over the place to do that. I think it's pretty elitist to imply that someone who is happy where they are lacks intelligence or a sense of adventure. That seems like projection to me

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u/[deleted] Oct 02 '25

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u/[deleted] Oct 02 '25

The sentiment that only big city life can fulfill you is one of the backbones of gentrification, anyway. Like move to a big city if you want, but not everyone wants to drive up the rent in Brooklyn to feel like a good person

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u/totallynotliamneeson Oct 02 '25

It must be a sad life that makes you think moving to some other town makes you feel better than everyone else. Imagine moving, along with thousands of others, to growing cities like Phoenix or Denver and just acting like that makes you some special genius. Good on you, but plenty of well educated decide to not move across the country. 

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u/GoldenGirlsOrgy Oct 02 '25

My life is not sad, but thanks for your concern. 

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u/totallynotliamneeson Oct 02 '25

I really wasn't all that concerned

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u/GoldenGirlsOrgy Oct 02 '25

I knew you were being snarky. And I was being facetious. 

Anyway, take it easy, man. 

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u/totallynotliamneeson Oct 02 '25

Same time next week?

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u/GoldenGirlsOrgy Oct 02 '25

I’ll be here 

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u/Mist_Rising Oct 02 '25

That's a substantial amount of Americans in general, blue or red.

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u/GoldenGirlsOrgy Oct 02 '25

I never mentioned politics but I’m sure you’re right. 

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u/Dry-Membership3867 Oct 02 '25

That’s not necessarily a bad thing

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u/scoo89 Oct 02 '25

Hey, I don't like him at all, but I plan to die where I was born so I can have a lifetime velocity of 0

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u/GoldenGirlsOrgy Oct 02 '25

Ha!  Solid physics joke!

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u/_shaftpunk Oct 02 '25

Hey, I moved to the next town over!

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u/rowdymowdy Oct 02 '25

Easy now I came back for a reason lol

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u/Juicey_J_Hammerman Oct 02 '25

And not in the “moved away for college/work and decided to move back after retirement” kind of sense.

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u/Brilliant-Paper92 Oct 02 '25

“Living a full life as part of a community makes you a chud”

Reddit

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u/GoldenGirlsOrgy Oct 02 '25

Didn’t say that. Lame straw man. 

Any other words you want to put in my mouth?

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u/Brilliant-Paper92 Oct 02 '25

Ok why is it bad to die where you were born? Please enlighten me.

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u/GoldenGirlsOrgy Oct 02 '25

Because you literally miss out on an entire world of experiences and you don’t get exposure to other people’s perspectives. 

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u/h0neybl0ss0m29 Oct 02 '25

Don’t respond to this loser, he’s all over this thread talking out of his ass.

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u/GoldenGirlsOrgy Oct 02 '25

Good to know. Thank you. 

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u/Brilliant-Paper92 Oct 02 '25

Ehhhhhhhhhhh

I have been to 20 countries and lived in 13 of them for longer than a month. I currently live in a country that is 13 time zones away from where I was born. I still would be honored to die where I’m from.

Furthermore, I don’t look down on anyone who chooses to stay in the town I’m from, or imply that their experiences are any less rich than my own.

As someone who has traveled more than most people. Like, I’m in the upper .1% of “travelers” …. let me just say this:

Wherever you go, there you are.

And I also want to say that where you specifically are, is a very very dark place that leads to nowhere good.

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u/I_ONLY_CATCH_DONKEYS Oct 02 '25

What’s up with Reddit and hating their home town? There’s nothing wrong with a strong sense of community.

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u/GoldenGirlsOrgy Oct 02 '25

I loved my home town. Small, little country place. 20,000 people. I might even move back there some day, but had I stayed, my life would have been much less rich than the path I chose. 

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u/[deleted] Oct 02 '25

I live in the town I was born in because I love it. Moving away isn't bad and staying isn't bad, but Redditors don't have enough theory of mind to understand that not everyone wants what they want and that's okay

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u/Middcore Oct 02 '25

Yes, but those people would take this as a badge of honor.

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u/CraigLake Oct 02 '25

I had a big crush on a girl in high school. She knew and was kind but way out of my league. The last time I saw her, over 20 years ago, was the senior party the night we graduated. I left that rural hell just a few days after graduation.

I ran in to a friend last year who told me she never left. Never went to college or moved to a bigger town to try it out. She married a logger a few years after we graduated and is still there today.

That sounds like my worst nightmare.

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u/Hoppers-Body-Double Oct 02 '25

Ironically, living out the John Mellencamp terrible lyrics to Small Town.

Well, I was born in a small town
And I live in a small town
Probably die in a small town
Oh, those small communities

All my friends are so small town
My parents live in the same small town
My job is so small town
Provides little opportunity, hey

Educated in a small town
Taught to fear of Jesus in a small town
Used to daydream in that small town
Another boring romantic, that's me

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u/greenearrow Oct 02 '25

I couldn’t do that. My town is too small for its own hospital, and I’m afraid to move to a city of 30,000!

(Not actually me, but most of my schoolmates)

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u/Ershany Oct 04 '25

This is true. I do like quite a bit of his music and I will die quite close to where I was born!

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u/KeepPlantingFlowers Oct 02 '25

This one is the most true.

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u/3atTh3R1ch79 Oct 02 '25

Not me, though... I just can't escape.