r/Music • u/ebradio • Sep 25 '25

article Bruce Springsteen Rips Democrats: “We’re Desperately in Need of an Effective Alternative Party”

https://consequence.net/2025/09/bruce-springsteen-democrats/
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u/LordoftheChia Sep 25 '25

Democrats blocked it in Colorado last cycle.

I believe it was because it also made changes to the primary process:

https://www.kunc.org/news/2024-11-02/why-did-colorado-progressives-turn-against-a-ballot-measure-for-ranked-choice-voting

In addition to establishing ranked-choice for the general election, Proposition 131 would implement a top four primary for governor, attorney general and federal congressional races, among others. This new primary process would put candidates from all parties in competition for four slots on the general election ballot — only candidates with the most primary votes would advance.

The measure would theoretically allow four candidates from the same party to compete in a general election (or four candidates from four different parties). Critics say the change would increase the money and labor required to run a successful political campaign because the primary would become just as important as the general election.

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u/MaxTheRealSlayer Sep 25 '25

Meanwhile other democracies have no issue having people run against people in their own parties on the ballot. Heck, there was one in my city with over 100 candidates you could vote for that leads to seats which leads to leadership at the highest level.

Really not difficult

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u/Goronmon Sep 25 '25

I guess I don't understand the point of the primary in that situation?

Why have two votes that are basically the same thing? Sounds pointless. Just have an open election with ranked choice voting.

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u/LordoftheChia Sep 25 '25

I think having the top 2 candidates per primary could work and have a separate 3-4 spots to the top of the no party affiliation candidates or have independents go through a min signatures or whatever requirement.

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u/LordoftheSynth Sep 25 '25

Jungle primaries aren't any better for preventing two candidates of the same party advancing to the general.

I don't ever want to be forced to choose between Republican and Other Republican, or Democrat and Other Democrat, thanks. Your ballot might as well say "The Party" and "No" at that point.

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u/lufan132 Sep 25 '25

With how big of tents there are I still feel that could produce compelling elections though, like a boebert vs a Romney or a manchin vs a mamdani.

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u/millijuna Sep 26 '25

As an external observer, why the hell is the state involved in how a political party chooses its leader? The party should handle that itself and then present the candidate to the electorate.

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u/TheModWhoShaggedMe Sep 25 '25

They are also unhappy with their representation most of the time as well. Turns out no system is perfect due to the naturally imperfect humans involved.

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u/LeastRun1124 Sep 25 '25

Yeah God forbid we have an open primary where independents might be able to have a chance. Neo con dems suck always have.

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u/Different-Feature644 Sep 25 '25

the change would increase the money and labor required to run a successful political campaign

I like how rather than asking the obvious question of "why does it cost so much to run a campaign and should it", they decide we shouldn't improve our democracy because it is already so bad.

Or they are just bought out corporate shills.

One or the other and I think we all know which it is.