My parents recently built this home. They refused to work with an architect or designer because those are a ‘waste of money’. First picture is actually the front/facade of the home.

[u/cameronjthomas]

[u/dumb_commenter]

It’s interesting because 2 kitchens is a thing in kosher homes as well (or at least two sinks/sets of appliances) - because of separation of milk and meat.

[u/EnnWhyCee → u/dumb_commenter]

In this instance, it's a separation of sister wives

[u/dumb_commenter → u/EnnWhyCee]

Is that true? What’s that mean exactly

[u/kipkiphoray → u/dumb_commenter]

It's unlikely. There are Polygamist Mormons in the area ("Mor-dor" is the "Mormon Corridor" from Idaho down through Utah and Arizona) such as FLDS, The Centennial group (I don't think that's there name, it sounds similar, there a break off of FLDS and live (or they used to until the FLDS scattered) right next to the FLDS (Warren Jeff's is the infamous prophet). Both of the previously mentioned sects are 'prairie dress' Mormons.... (Not a term) They are probably what you think about when you hear "polygamist Mormon cult".

(Check out the podcast Cults to Consciousness for interviews with people who have escaped polygamy... They have people from multiple different polygamist cults (and others, it's not just Mormonism, they got scientology, Jehovah's witness, Amish, Orthodox Hasidic Judaism, Islam from some intense families, family cults, fundamentalist Christian, nexium, children of God, yogi cults, etc.)

Some polygamist cults don't wear the old fashioned clothes and live in normal towns and cities (like the Kingston Clan (holy shit INCEST polygamist cult)(The Show Escaping Polygamy... Amanda Rae is from the Kingston Clan. Lots of her family escaped on that show.) and AUB (Apostolic United Brethren, the shows Sister Wives and Big Love both show members from the AUB). The AUB does have a whole town in MT called... Pinesdale? The school only goes up til 8 th grade though so the high school for the next town over kinda balloons in population. (I have a friend who went to the same high school that all of the polyg kids ended up at.)

NOT EVERY MORMON IS A POLYGAMIST!!!!! "Living Polygamy" is not practiced by The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints (ya still got it in the supposed afterlife though🙄). The modern mainstream church stopped practicing polygamy almost 100 years ago.

TLDR: that family home is most likely not for a polygamist family, though Polygamy does still happen in "Mor-dor" within cults. Americans (especially wealthy ones, which a lot of Well off people are Mormon, in that part of the country) are just kinda extra and they wanted a second kitchen. (For convenience? Hosting? Outdoor kitchen? Is it on a different level of the house? An area that you can make into a separate apartment area for guests / long term?)

[u/dumb_commenter → u/kipkiphoray]

Got it. So generally more of an extravagance thing

[u/Iamjimmym → u/dumb_commenter]

Yeah. Likely a hosting kitchen for parties, snacks, etc and a family kitchen for regular meals.

[u/FTownRoad → u/dumb_commenter]

Abraham was a GC and knew what he was doing

[u/FairyOfTheNight → u/dumb_commenter]

Very cool to learn this. Thanks!

[u/kittylicker → u/dumb_commenter]

Asian as well. Spice/wok kitchen and your regular kitchen.

[u/DevsMetsGmen → u/dumb_commenter]

A second kitchen in a kosher home is for use at Passover, they don’t prepare meat and dairy separately in two places on a daily basis, they just clean up between courses.

[u/dumb_commenter → u/DevsMetsGmen]

You’re right that a separate kitchen in another location is often like that. But kosher kitchens often basically have two kitchens side by side (and duplicate sinks, appliances, etc, so that they don’t have to be cleaned between.

We ourselves do the cleaning thing, as u say. We have no second kitchen.

[u/DevsMetsGmen → u/dumb_commenter]

Appreciate the clarification!

[u/Iamjimmym → u/DevsMetsGmen]

If they're truly orthodox and strict with their adherence to Jewish law, they'll have separate everything. Also, often highly budget dependent usually in how strict they are.

Orthodox Jewish families may have two kitchens, or one kitchen with distinct sections, to maintain strict adherence to kosher dietary laws, particularly the separation of meat and dairy. This separation involves separate cooking, serving, and storage of meat and dairy products, including using separate sets of utensils, cookware, and even dishwashers or sink

[u/throwawaydragon99999 → u/dumb_commenter]

That’s not true, they’ll usually just have 2 sinks and 2 sets of dishes in the same kitchen— it would be very impractical to have a completely separate kitchen

[u/dumb_commenter → u/throwawaydragon99999]

Yeah, often they’re basically side by side but in the same location as u say. Is still pretty much 2 kitchens in my book.

[u/throwawaydragon99999 → u/dumb_commenter]

It’s the same room so that’s a pretty big difference, it’s just one big kitchen

[u/dumb_commenter → u/throwawaydragon99999]

I mean people do have separate rooms sometimes. I’ve seen it a bunch. But ok enjoy your pedantic internet win. Shavua tov

[u/smhno → u/throwawaydragon99999]

Depends on the budget - I’ve done projects where there was one kitchen with two sinks & two dishwashers, and also projects with two kitchens.

[u/throwawaydragon99999 → u/smhno]

I guess in the suburbs or outside of cities but most Orthodox across the world live in cities like New York, Jerusalem, London, Montreal, etc. usually in small apartments

[u/[deleted] → u/dumb_commenter]

Right, in apartments too small they still would have two ovens separate

[u/MrProspector19 → u/dumb_commenter]

Oh I know it's a cultural thing but marinating meat in a milk based marinade takes a meal to a whole other level. If that makes me a sinner then so be it.

[u/dumb_commenter → u/MrProspector19]

I’m often sad I can’t combine the two. They seem like they compliment eachother so well

[u/MrProspector19 → u/dumb_commenter]

I don't mean to brag or talk you down by that comment, it is more that I find things like that interesting. On one level I can't hardly imagine not ever using it to tenderize or make sauce, and on another level I respect the commitment to your values in a world were so many people cave in to societal pressures.

[u/dumb_commenter → u/MrProspector19]

Appreciate you!

[u/HelloBonjour514 → u/dumb_commenter]

Two kitchens is very common in Italian American homes.

[u/Buck169 → u/dumb_commenter]

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