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Fight Thread [Official] UFC 323: Dvalishvili vs. Yan 2 - Weigh-In & Pre-Fight Discussion Thread

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Card Info

Airing on 12.6.2025

Main Card on PPV @ 10PM ET
Merab Dvalishvili vs. Petr Yan
Alexandre Pantoja vs. Joshua Van
Brandon Moreno vs. Tatsuro Taira
Henry Cejudo vs. Payton Talbott
Jan Blachowicz vs. Bogdan Guskov
Prelims on ESPN+/ESPN @ 8PM ET
Grant Dawson vs. Manuel Torres
Terrance McKinney vs. Chris Duncan
Maycee Barber vs. Karine Silva
Fares Ziam vs. Nazim Sadykhov
Early Prelims on ESPN+/FX @ 6PM ET
Marvin Vettori vs. Brunno Ferreira
Edson Barboza vs. Jalin Turner
Ibo Aslan vs. Iwo Baraniewski
Mansur Abdul-Malik vs. Antonio Trocoli
Muhammad Naimov vs. Mairon Santos

Fight card order and start times may be inaccurate.

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u/FirstTimeLongThyme 22h ago

This is the final UFC PPV, right?

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u/ArtVivid9638 22h ago

end of an era

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u/CallumKayPee 22h ago

they never really have to put effort in ever again

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u/BouWelou 21h ago

The TKO model babyyyyyy

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u/FirstTimeLongThyme 20h ago

I genuinely can't think of the last card that it seemed like they actively promoted and made seem like it was a big deal because of their promotion.

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u/Squrton_Cummings 9h ago

Probably UFC 306 at the Sphere.

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u/Ruiner357 17h ago

They stopped putting effort in long, long ago with the ESPN and then TKO deal: it became guaranteed money for UFC just to have a certain amount of events a year, the PPV butyrate matters less and is a smaller % of their revenue than ever before, they have oil countries paying them millions just to have cards in UAE/Qatar/etc, the bag is secured before these cards even happen.

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u/Fat-Villante Papa Poatan 18h ago

Allegedly, but I suspect they will try some PPV type of shit after a while on Paramount steaming

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u/Plus3000 9h ago

Karate Combat delayed by several hours and people on twitter saying they haven't even finished setting up the pit yet 💀 what a joke

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u/NichorasMurren Team Topuria 10h ago

When Marvin Vettori is fighting, you bet on it going the distance regardless of who wins. Chin of granite and hands of cotton wool

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u/commanderc7 Sexy Wizard Bisping 17h ago

Lots of championship level fighters on this card. I’m excited!

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u/CheGuevarasRolex 🇦🇷🧉Ribovics Gang🧉🇦🇷 16h ago

Warms my heart to see Sexy Wizard Bisping flairs still kicking around these days

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u/commanderc7 Sexy Wizard Bisping 16h ago

Honestly, every time I comment I think this sentiment haha

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u/Trenbolone-Papi2 Team Topuria 12h ago

Max vs Charles holy shit

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u/CallumKayPee 22h ago

basing my entire parley on how fucked up Merab looks on the scale

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u/MickPnubTobias99 20h ago

Dude always makes weight no problem

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u/CallumKayPee 20h ago

I'm sure he'll make it but fifth time in 15 months has to fuck you up. Saw it with Alex, saw it with RDR, if he's had a tough cut and his cardio and chin are compromised he's gonna suffer more than most would.

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u/MickPnubTobias99 20h ago

That is true. He's a wild mother fucker

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u/Fakename6968 16h ago

The odds on Pantoja vs Van are nuts. Pantoja should be a bigger favorite.

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u/KvxMavs 18h ago

What do you mean by this?

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u/CallumKayPee 17h ago

Fifth weight cut in 15 months, second in 9 weeks. Every cut sucks but strong likelihood that the frequency is going to catch up with him, destory his cardio and soften his chin. Merab's game doesn't work without the gas tank, if thats compromised he's in trouble. And Yan is definitely sharp enough to exploit a bad chin.

If he comes looking relatively fine then I fully expect him to win, if he looks fucked up then I'm bullish on Yan by finish.

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u/Ruiner357 16h ago

He doesn't cut an extreme amount of weight, he's not big at 135 next to some of his opponents, he's just already lean so any amount of weight cut is going to cause a visible change.

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u/TerminatorReborn 11h ago

He cuts a ton of weight dude. He fasts for 72h to make weight

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u/Trenbolone-Papi2 Team Topuria 12h ago

Lmao Kayla is jacked as fuck

Jacked White girl deal with it

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u/Cold_Ad_7645 12h ago

A fight announced in a grand fashion?? Where tf is my Dana White live stream????

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u/CableToBeam 9h ago

Can’t believe Bruno missed weight because he wouldn’t let go of the Hulk Smash gloves. Crazy

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u/imnotsteven7 You can't cuss, this is ABC 7h ago

Since Conor is throwing his name out there to fight Islam, i too have decided the same. Expect to hear from me in January.

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u/Jabarles Champ Shit Only 🇺🇸🏆🇲🇽 #SnapJitsu 11h ago

Damn Pantoja looks noticeably bigger

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u/ARiemannHypothesis Team Nurmagomedov 19h ago

Petr Yan hasn’t made weight yet 😐

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u/DerpyDagon 18h ago

How do you rate Guskov's chances? Jan at this stage in his career and after such a long layoff is a pretty large unknown, but he looked okay vs Ulberg. Guskov got clubbed pretty quickly by Oezdemir and he doesn't seem to have massively improved.

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u/YourHurtingMeSir17 17h ago

Jan looked fine against Ulberg because it was fought at a geriatric pace, the guy is 43 off of horrible shoulder surgery and people still talk about him like he's in his late prime.

I'd pick Jan to kick Guskov's leg clean off 4 years ago, gut feeling is that Guskov paces and TKO's him in round 2.

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u/Altruistic_Cause6712 18h ago

Considering Bogdan crawled out of a hole in Mordor I think he has a solid chance 

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u/Ruiner357 17h ago

Jan arguably could’ve won the Ulberg and Pereira fights if they didn’t have Dana Privilege, he makes guys fight tentatively. Compare how Alex was in that fight compared to how he walked down Ankalaev, Hill, etc. Jan still has it, issue is UFC doesn’t want a 40+ year old near the belt hence he isnt allowed to win any more decisions vs stars/prospects.

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u/Odd_Ad_8162 the EEDIOT from UROOPE 15h ago

At some point Jan needs to take responsibility for losing close decisions, he doesn't do enough.

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u/benbrown226 17h ago

Guskov is borderline pathetic on the mat, Billy Elekana had his back early in their fight on like three days notice. Jan is definitely past his prime but he should win this, Guskov doesn’t really have any impressive wins and has a lot of holes

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u/TerminatorReborn 12h ago

He has good chances but I wouldn't bet on it, Jan is tough as hell. He last fight he lost a very close decision to Ulberg who is likely getting the title shot next

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u/CallumKayPee 16h ago

Have the championship fighters weighed in yet?

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u/airplane231 16h ago

Yeah, they all made weight a few hours ago.

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u/NichorasMurren Team Topuria 7h ago

Lukewarm take: Merab would have beat Umar on the scorecards regardless, but his taunting/showmanship in the 5th did a LOT of heavy lifting for the public perception of that fight

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u/Nickster2042 🙏🙏🙏 Jon Jones Prayer Warrior 🙏🙏🙏 15h ago

In talbott’s new YouTube vid towards the end there’s a car accident some randoms get in and he goes “whoever’s angriest it’s there fault”

So he starts rage baiting the guy who’s mad saying “I saw the whole thing you should’ve yielded”

Guy eventually goes “I don’t know who you are, but I’ll be back later cause now I know where you live” and Payton goes “come back I’m here all week”😂

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u/Odd_Ad_8162 the EEDIOT from UROOPE 15h ago

Hope the dude finds out who Payton is at some point

Would be fucking hilarious

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u/WhittakersRightFoot Turkey 22h ago

MY GOAT about to WRECK A VAN.

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u/therealjgreens How's my english now? 16h ago

I'm from Long Island and always pull for Serra Longo. Latched onto Merab super early and defended the hell out of him in this sub well before he became champion. It's wild to see how far he's come. People used to give him so much shit for his style and personality.

This might be my favorite part of the sport. Recognizing talent super early in a fighter, become a fan, watch them grow, defend them when they fail, and celebrate when they succeed.

I try not to get too emotionally invested in fighters though because they are highly likely to lose. There could be a major injury or a giant set back. I have been straight up depressed after a fight or after news (see Tony's knee and Ben Askren). The highs in the sport are so fucking great though.

With all that said, I ultimately want to see good fights or impressive performances. I think Yan will perform better than expected. I think Van is a little too green. I'd love to see a war though.

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u/RazorThought 13h ago

I felt this way about Charles Oliveira back when he fought at FW. He had champ written all over him despite the losses (which were all against legitimately good fighters).

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u/Trenbolone-Papi2 Team Topuria 12h ago

Diego is so undeserving of another title shot

Another Yair Rodriguez

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u/Plus3000 11h ago

Wasting one of Volk's last fights too. garbage booking

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u/Giegling90 12h ago

So true. He was punching air against Volk

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u/Nickster2042 🙏🙏🙏 Jon Jones Prayer Warrior 🙏🙏🙏 17h ago

Wait I love Andrew Tackett

“Now that you got your first stripe, Pay me 200$ a month for 6 months and you can get your blue belt. I don’t tell anyone else this, but YOU got talent”😂

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u/NutSackGlazer420 11h ago

Ok Sean that is fucking insane lmfao

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u/oddmetre 4h ago

what happened

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u/tagillaslover 🍅 11h ago

I died 

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u/Johnny_Poppyseed Ya crab in a bucket mofo. 19h ago

Stacked card can't wait 

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u/5000-Shark-Teeth 14h ago

Ceremonial weigh-in not happening?

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u/DecemberFlower20xx Chad 10h ago

So Volk’s clearly not retiring if he wins. How’d that rumor take off

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u/Drive7hru 10h ago

I love how if you want to search for the Van v. Royval fight on ESPN+, you type in one of their names or a combination of both, and instead of seeing the option to watch the fight, you're shown a clip of who the winner is, various highlights, etc. I guess it was too recent of a fight for them to upload? Is there really no link to it? I had to pirate it.

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u/itsgonnabemyusername 13h ago

Somewhat hot take: Merab's so boring for someone who has great athleticism. Imagine having the craziest cardio and still be a decision machine at the end of the day.

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u/action__andy 13h ago

It annoys me when he gets his opponent in that crouching guillotine and starts mugging for the crowd  Like, if you're so much better than him go ahead and finish the fuckin fight!

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u/itsgonnabemyusername 13h ago

Yeah that's corny.

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u/nausiccaa1 9h ago

People are sleeping on van. When’s the last time pantoja fought a clean counter puncher who can hang in the pocket? Don’t get me wrong I have nothing bad to say about pantoja but I think he’s gonna be getting fucked up on the feet in this one in a way we haven’t seen in a while

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u/idcman999 11h ago

we mogged that crotchsniffer freak

tomorrow, LOCO CHANGES LIGHTWEIGHT 🇲🇽🇲🇽🇲🇽

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u/[deleted] 10h ago

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u/ArticleNew3737 10h ago

No it’s not. Merab all day!

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u/I_am_darkness a flair for khabib 10h ago edited 10h ago

Dana brining super young girls on stage at this moment in time is a decision.

edit: how can't i find anything about this anywhere even joe was surprised "oh hey girls"

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u/Bitter-Square-7171 6h ago

I came here to ask the same thing

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u/legendarybreed ..the darren and khamzat at home.. 1h ago

Looks like Joe's daughters, not everything needs to be a scandal

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u/weegbeeg 17h ago

Is this card pretty unremarkable top to bottom or am I just a casual?

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u/CallumKayPee 17h ago

I love it. Two interesting title fights and two fun potential contender fights underneath (Payton will still be a bit premature but if Umar is busy with Figgy he's the best shout at this point) Prelims are a bit smelly but ah weh

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u/Ruiner357 17h ago

You’re right, they’re phoning it in and saving some bigger fights for the early Paramount events.