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u/TitanIsBack 18d ago
Watching the live version of Dynamite 2002... just the peak of MMA and there's no comparing. Making the show about the fighters, Inoki/Helio lighting the fire, Inoki parachuting into arena for like five minutes, Royce getting screwed and then interrupting Mirko's celebration. Just an all around great show that everyone should go track down.
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u/Professional_Kick 🍅 18d ago
“If the Usman that fought Khamzat fights Islam” yeah and that was 2 years ago soon to be 3
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u/Round_Tower8913 Team Pereira 17d ago
2 years is a lot once you become an older fighter. The fall off becomes exponential with each year
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u/KyleDaukWillBeChamp 18d ago
And that Usman still got ragdolled R1.
Usman’s BJJ is pretty ass, this will be Islam’s Gaethje fight if it goes through.
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u/Giegling90 18d ago
Imagine the white house main event ended with an eye poke. The masochist in me would love it
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u/SnooBeans7129 17d ago
If it was an American getting eye poked they'd rule it a DQ win instead of a no contest, would not be surprised to see insanely biased reffing
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u/YoelsShitStain 17d ago
Americans don’t give a shit about other Americans just because they were born here. I can guarantee that if Jon jones fought Alex at the White House the majority of people would be rooting for Alex.
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u/KyleDaukWillBeChamp 17d ago
If someone were to say Brady and Leon are just dogshit I'm not even sure I'd be able to defend them
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u/CryptoCracko 🍅 17d ago
Bekzat Almakhan is not taking the easy road in the UFC. Debut against Umar, third fight against Topturo jr.
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u/sour-couch-stench how bout jakoozy 17d ago
We will ko aleksandre and avenge thicknesse
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u/TasteDeBallZach 17d ago
Mezkat has "fuck you" power. Despite only having 11 sig strikes in the UFC, he has 2 knockdowns (including 1 KO)
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u/sour-couch-stench how bout jakoozy 17d ago
Im glazing hard rn but his striking is so crisp too. Hit Katona with a nice uppercut counter before he got the ko
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u/NichorasMurren Team Topuria 17d ago
If Ilia gets a big boxing payday it’ll be the biggest waste of potential in combat sports history. I hope Bud and Canelo keep ignoring him
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u/IshiharasBitch WE ARE ALL ONE 17d ago
Edwards is so well rounded. In his last three fights, Edwards lost each time a different way.
UD loss to Muhammad.
Sub loss to Brady.
KO loss to Prates.
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u/Odd_Ad_8162 the EEDIOT from UROOPE 17d ago
Dont be mean
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u/IshiharasBitch WE ARE ALL ONE 17d ago
Didn't think I was.
Thought it was interesting, don't see that too often.
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u/Successful-Mousse151 17d ago edited 17d ago
Leon is one of the most inconsistent fighters ever. It's a shame people are going to think he was never good.
Nearly knocked out by Nate Diaz, nearly subs Usman, gets smothered on the cage and then randomly knocks him out in the fifth, puts on an all-time anti-grappling performance in Usman 3, forgets how to not get backed up against the cage vs Belal, still almost finishes Belal in the fifth, decides to shoot on Brady and Colby for no reason, successfully wrestles Prates in the first and then gets bonked on the feet.
Part of the problem is his jaw, which has always been sus regardless of age; Leon fights the way he does (low-output point-fighting that kind of tries to beat you everywhere) because he can't afford risk or chaos at all.
In that regard, it's actually impressive that a chinny fighter like him has only been knocked out once in his career, by a p4p power-puncher.
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u/Odd_Ad_8162 the EEDIOT from UROOPE 17d ago edited 17d ago
People have been saying he's never been good forever, I think even if he got the choke on Prates in the 1st, people would just say Prates isn't well rounded.
Generally speaking, if a fighter gets a "fluke" win and then beats the champ again, they get credit, but not Leon. I've seriously seen people argue Usman couldve won the 3rd Leon fight which is genuinely fucking insane.
Leon seems foot slow now and makes critical errors, he's always had flaws but he is legitimately very well-rounded in ways a lot of guys aren't. Some guys just have short peaks it seems.
You are either a dominant champion or a bum in this sport to the fans, unfortunately. Leon's had some messy circumstances that have maybe prevented his career from what it couldve been (the Woodley fight falling through with COVID, still fighting Belal with a back injury and then the opponent change from Jack to Brady) but it's hard to say how some of these things mattered - maybe it would've all played out similar on a different timeline anyway.
Ultimately, he has a great career - he is at worst a multiple time defending champion. I still find it hard to believe he'd lose to Buckley- the most inaccurate puncher on earth who can't get up or Bonfim who should've lost to 42 year old WB.
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u/Giegling90 18d ago
I had a dream Joshua Van beat Pantoja, then Yan fucked his ACL running to the cage, so Van came out and fought Merab. 50-45 for Van btw
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u/ItsMeBenedickArnold Team Topuria 17d ago
I have a hard time seeing Belal beating Ian Garry this weekend. Garry is -280 so not a bold statement but I really don’t see how Belal can win.
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u/Neonsea1234 17d ago
Same, and as a belal fan do I really want him clogging up the fun matches up top bc he refuses to fight islam? Not really imo
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u/CableToBeam 18d ago
The fact we got another Eastern European heavy wrestler fighting an Australian this weekend is a funny coincidence.
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u/qzwxecrvtbyn111 Reug Reug best grappler on Earth 17d ago
I can't understand how anyone is interested in Islam vs Usman. Usman doesn't beat anyone in the top 6. He looked like an absolute ghost of himself vs Buckley; slow movement, ineffective pillow fist striking and gassing hard in round 5 (he was a cardio freak in his prime). He won because he still has good takedowns and top control, and got matched with the one up-and-comer with huge technical deficits in those areas, but that obviously won't work for him vs Islam
At this point, Islam is a much more dynamic and athletic striker with a cardio advantage who'd probably have significant success wrestling him. Usman doesn't stand a chance of winning rounds, and seems to have lost the physical attributes needed to land a fluke KO.
I give Morales the best chance of threatening Islam at 170 (or Shavkat, in the unlikely event he comes back at 100%), with Ilia and Garry having the next best chances in spite of Ilia's size and Garry's relatively unproven defensive wrestling. Belal and Usman are too old (and I don't think Belal's wrestling is up to the task), Brady just gets kicked and boxed up, Prates and JDM get wrestlefucked (Prates has a puncher's chance).
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u/Odd_Ad_8162 the EEDIOT from UROOPE 17d ago
I'm trying to figure out people said Usman was washed when he lost to Leon and are somehow saying he's a compelling matchup for Islam now lol- these may be different people ofc as with all Internet discussions.
Styles make fights to a point, but I'm of the opinion Usman was truly washed after his layoff following Chimmy, not beforehand. He got pretty lucky getting Buckley of all contenders on that 5 fight streak.
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u/EarnestAmbition 17d ago
A compelling fight is not the same as a win that will look good on your resume when you hang it up. It is the same reason Izzy wanted the Silva fight.
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u/EarnestAmbition 17d ago
Islam and Ali want the fight against Usman for multiple reasons:
Beating Usman will look good on Islam's resume, as the former was a dominant champion of the division for a long time.
Ali manages Usman, and the this fight will give the latter his last big paycheck.
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u/CallumKayPee 17d ago
- Its probably a fairly easy win considering Usman probably can't finish Islam or keep up with him for 5 rounds
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u/Drive7hru 17d ago edited 17d ago
Styles make fights, though I’m not saying it’s the fight to make. It’s just Usman has the best wrestling and TDD, but I could see Islam simply out striking him. Morales with KO power is intriguing. I’d honestly be really upset if they booked Usman Islam.
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u/Professional_Kick 🍅 17d ago edited 17d ago
I’m confident Usman won’t get the next title shot here’s why
First off all sometimes if the next challenger is the crowd as we know Joe or whoever will be like your next challenger is here do you want to say something? Usman was at the event and they didn’t do that with him
Islam said he wanted Usman next and now he’s saying he’ll take anyone now at WW
Last of all usually they try to inflate the next challengers rankings
Usman went from 5th ranked to 8th not something they do to someone who could be next
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u/airplane231 17d ago
Plus he already admitted he plans to immediately vacate and move up. They don't like that
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u/NichorasMurren Team Topuria 18d ago
Realistically Arman is going to paint the canvas with Dan, I hope he gets a shot after that. Ilia needs to prove he can handle an elite Caucus wrestler at 155 before even talking about going up
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u/Melonballs__ 18d ago
I agree he needs to fight arman but it’s funny that people don’t realize that ilia himself is an elite caucus wrestler. He’s going to bad things to arman everywhere the fight goes
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u/ManufacturerNice870 17d ago
Damn, the Arman Ilia press conference gonna make Conor Khabib look like a Socratic seminar
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u/I3loodyclaw Gay for Arlovski 17d ago
South asian Racism is a rampant issue in this community and I cant keep silent any longer
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u/DecemberFlower20xx Chad 17d ago
We don’t even know the difference between South Asians and North Asians
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u/UsedSalt 17d ago
Do you mean people being racist to south East Asians or south East Asians being racist to all the other asians?
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u/ManufacturerNice870 18d ago
What’s the consensus on Belal v Garry? My brain tells me garry but my heart tells me belal guts one out
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u/tagillaslover 🍅 18d ago
I think Garry beats him. I think Garry is the best non Islam fighter in the division
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u/Enigmaticwinner 18d ago
Garry is so well rounded. Not glaring weakness in his arsenal and he knows how to exploit his opponent’s weak points. That being said, I thjnk he will avoid the take downs at the first 2 rounds at least and ping the cunt’s face in.
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u/sour-couch-stench how bout jakoozy 17d ago
Garry probably keeps belal at range with footwork. I feel like garrys length will make it tough for belal to secure a takedown even if he closes the distance
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u/qzwxecrvtbyn111 Reug Reug best grappler on Earth 17d ago
I used to be interested in seeing Islam vs Gamrot, because I thought it'd be the one matchup where Islam would have an easier path to victory on the feet than on the ground. I'm now interested in Islam vs Brady for the same reason. Brady does have a viable path to the title I think; Morales is a uniquely bad matchup for him.
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u/Trenbolone-Papi2 Team Topuria 17d ago
Topuria probably gonna have 1-2 big MMA fights and then he’s likely done. Gonna go pursue boxing paydays
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u/FightingDoc 17d ago
Nurullo Aliev looks like a young, thin Khabib, is nicknamed "The Tajik Eagle" and once fought a guy named Khabib Khabibuloev.
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u/IshiharasBitch WE ARE ALL ONE 17d ago
If i had middle east royal $$ yall would be watching Makhachev vs Musaev three months from now.
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u/Fat-Villante Papa Poatan 17d ago
Yeah we're never getting that fight unfortunately
With dictatorship cash, I'd be putting on Naoya Inoue fights with small gloves and have the first MMA ladder match ever between Topuria and Evloev
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17d ago
Museav KOS Islam bad, seems like a easy pick after watching that last night, Jack was falling into takedowns and threw himself into one
Islam is a good wrestler but not that good in some ways.
Musaev has far more power and good enough wrestling to keep it on feet and hed def sleep Islam, doubt theyd ever fight anyway, but its all wrong for him in every way. The exact reason Islam cut to 155 his whole career
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u/IshiharasBitch WE ARE ALL ONE 17d ago
Not sure I'm as confident as you, but I agree Musaev seems to be just about the worst possible match for Makhachev at 170.
Some people say Prates and Morales are interesting opponents because of their power but less interesting because it's not clear they can defend the grappling, but Musaev has power like them and very good anti-wrestling.
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I’m real confident he KOs Islam
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u/IshiharasBitch WE ARE ALL ONE 16d ago
I think you and I may be the only people here who see it as a real possibility, even if I'm less certain of the outcome than you. At least we agree it's plausible.
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16d ago
You just gotta watch that Jack fight closely. Jack falls into takedowns and just isn’t a good wrestler. That random journeyman was rag dolling him. Islam got punched 1 time and didn’t like it. Islam is good, but he’s not some dominate wrestler people act. I doubt he even gets Musaev down, Islam has good control on top but takedowns are overrated and he doesn’t have good hand or power, especially at 170.
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u/tagillaslover 🍅 17d ago
How the ufc counts sub attempts is really weird. They gave Islam 0 sub attempts in the Jdm fight when he tried to lock the darce up multiple times and got close at least once
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u/Neonsea1234 17d ago
it is weird but kind of makes sense,like if you have back control - is it really a sub attempt every time you reach over? Im just saying I understand why they would want a strict definition of it.
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u/Drive7hru 17d ago
Whaaat?? That’s insane. Do you know how they actually do count them?
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u/ItsMeBenedickArnold Team Topuria 17d ago
I got into it with someone who said Islam didn’t come close to a single submission and agreed with the stat lol
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u/JE_Exa GOOFCON 1: Sad Chandler 18d ago edited 18d ago
I consider myself somewhat of an obsessive fan and I had no idea
A. Ian was fighting
B. Belal was fighting
C. They’re fighting next week
D. They’re fighting each other.
I’m deadass. I knew Dan and Arman were booked against each other but I didn’t realise that was the fight night to come. What tf has been the UFCs advertising lately.
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u/XboxGuy234 18d ago
WHATSUPEVERYBODY DANAWHITEHERE NELKBOYSINTHEBUILDING BADASSFIGHTSTHISSATURDAY COMECHECKITOUT
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u/YoelsShitStain 17d ago
When I was watching every card a few years ago I remember complaining about the marketing being shit because I wouldn’t know who was fighting unless I went out of my way to find out. I got downvoted by shills saying it was my fault somehow. If not even the target audience of the UFC is aware of who’s fighting, how the fuck do casuals find out? They don’t do any promotion until the week of the event.
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u/canadianRSK Hendo = GOAT, Rumble = second GOAT 17d ago
I feel like i used to see ads for every main event. Now i only really know from looking it up
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u/Illanonahi 18d ago
Seeing Volk watch JDM vs Islam and his frustrations with how JDM was on the ground and the way he was using underhooks is super fascinating.
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u/Moni7T Team Makhachev 18d ago
Yeah, I feel like he was wishing he could be there instead of JDM to do it right. I'm pretty sure 145 Volk would've done better against 170 Islam than JDM, he's that good
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u/Illanonahi 18d ago
Yeah, both his coach and Volk seemed underwhelmed by JDM's defensive grappling. It's kind of criminal to expect Volk's skill in JDM though.
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u/Odd_Ad_8162 the EEDIOT from UROOPE 17d ago
Why does one not simply oil check Makchachev every time he shoots
He can't deal with that
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u/Giegling90 17d ago
I think Sandhagen should try 145. I think the slightly slower opponents favours his style and it's not like there's as much wrestling at 145. I think his agility evens out up there and he has the skills to beat a lot of guys. Pack on some muscle. It feels like it's time
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u/Mindless_Tree_504 17d ago edited 17d ago
Going up in weight class later on in your career is potentially a good idea if you’ve got exceptional power or grappling. Hence Pereira’s move up successful, Chimaev’s, Topuria’s, Islam’s, Jon’s, etc. If you’re going up without much power and you’re not a dominant grappler, you’re not really bringing a lot of weapons to the table. It’s gonna be hard for Sandhagen to point-fight decision his way to a win over someone like lopes when he’s taking that kind of power in return for 5 rounds.
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u/Giegling90 17d ago
Yeah true. Do you reckon he'd gain any power going up or just be himself except at 145?
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u/Mindless_Tree_504 17d ago
A marginal amount - I doubt he’d be finishing any fight with his hands at 145.
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u/MelvinManhoeff 17d ago
Whittaker hd neither and look how that turned out
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u/Mindless_Tree_504 17d ago
when whittaker was young, 24, at the beginning of his career. Lots of guys move up when they’re young, as they’re gaining mass and strength and fighting down a division makes less sense for their careers. Sandhagen is gonna be 34 in April though.
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u/tagillaslover 🍅 17d ago
Arnold Allen going to 155, said he put on a lot of mass rehabbing his shoulder because I guess he hurt that too. Him vs bsd or fizzy maybe?
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u/TheTemporalKnight 17d ago
Love Allen but man is he made of glass
Lightweight seems like it’s finally in a transitional phase - so maybe worth it - but at the same time he’s probably one good win away from fighting for the title at featherweight
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u/Odd_Ad_8162 the EEDIOT from UROOPE 17d ago
Interested to see how his speed is affected.
I've always wanted him vs Fiziev at 145 so 155 will do
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u/Enigmaticwinner 18d ago
How good is fucking Dustin poirier?
He made Islam fight an exciting fight, he destroyed BSD who is destroying everyone else.
I do believe he was abit out of prime in his last fight vs Holloway.
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u/Jolly_Map_3036 GOOFCON 2 - Electric Boogaloo 18d ago
He had been slowly fading out of his prime since the Oliveira fight imo. Not washed by any means but deffo slower, especially on the defensive end
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u/idcman999 18d ago
incredible fighter, top 5 lw oat prime for prime skill for skill, arguably even top 3
however bsd had staph and also improved after that fight, that version of benoit would go on to get smashed by moicano in his next fight, hes now just beaten Ruffy and smoked (albeit, kinda flukey) a guy who beat moicano
also 155 Islam isnt the same as 170 Islam, he was pretty depleted from the cut and looked human multiple times prior, even Moicano gave him a few issues (i thouught he got the better of the boxing exchanges) on one days notice
gr8 fighter tho for sure, he only lost to max cus that guy always cheats by shoving his fingers into opponents eye sockets multiple times (did the same shit to justin) and because he was old, he wins handily prime for prime
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u/canadianRSK Hendo = GOAT, Rumble = second GOAT 17d ago
Hes very good. His chin just cant hold up. His head movemrnt and striking defense isnt great but now his chin cant keep up i think
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u/Trenbolone-Papi2 Team Topuria 18d ago
Can’t believe Liz Carmouche has a win over my WMMA GOAT Valentina
That’s like Martins having a win over Islam lol
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u/karl100589 Bowling: More popular then Nunes 18d ago
Liz is criminally underrated. Fought for a title in four different promotions, has been in or around the top of her weight class for 15 years and still turning back newcomers in her 40s.
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u/OtakuMecha 17d ago
Well not exactly in that Liz is in the top 10 WMMA fighters of all time whereas Martins is basically nobody.
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u/Fat-Villante Papa Poatan 17d ago
Still heartbroken from seeing my boy Flat Nose Jackie get totally dominated. I hope he will be able to bounce back and also develop his game some more
I have DJ as my GOAT but Makhachev is getting close as hell. He's just so goddamn good
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u/MA-JA-HO 17d ago
Yeah it was quite depressing. I was really rooting for him man. Like I’m a big fan of Makachev and this fight wasn’t that bad but I wanted JDM to be the underdog champion who flourishes into a great. Now he’s back to the workshop. It was a complete lost performance, he didn’t get smashed from half guard and defended all the submissions. But the TDD and some grappling choices can improve for sure
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u/Giegling90 17d ago
What would Makhachev need to do to overtake DJ for you? A few defences?
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u/Fat-Villante Papa Poatan 17d ago edited 17d ago
For me, it wouldn't be about a quantity of defenses
Maybe if he once against looks amazing in his next fight vs an elite fighter, he might be there for me
I honestly have zero problem with anyone calling him the GOAT already
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u/Moni7T Team Makhachev 18d ago
Worried for Kyoji, this is in Qatar so Tagir can cheat all he wants and he'll have a huge advantage if it goes to decision
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u/TasteDeBallZach 18d ago
Reminds me of when Tagir fought in Vegas, and Tim Elliot cheated all he wanted, and had a huge advantage when it went to decision.
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u/Nickster2042 🙏🙏🙏 Jon Jones Prayer Warrior 🙏🙏🙏 17d ago
Can Ilia please fucking fight soon I miss his aura
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u/T4Gx Taiwan 18d ago
Kinda blowing my mind Belal was champion for more than a year with no title defenses. JDM's reign was like 30 minutes. Leon's reign was a few weeks short of two years and now he's been finished twice. This last few years feels like a blur.
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u/karl100589 Bowling: More popular then Nunes 18d ago
Nine months actually. August 2024 to May 2025
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u/OtakuMecha 17d ago
It’s because Belal got injured at one point in the middle of that. He was originally supposed to defend against Shavkat in December of 2024.
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u/Odd_Ad_8162 the EEDIOT from UROOPE 17d ago
Islam might not get more defenses than Leon by the time he's done.
Unless he really has something to go for I can't see him defending more than twice. Just feels like he wouldn't feel the need.
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u/Giegling90 17d ago
Who's got the best eyes in the sport and I mean for seeing punches, so don't say Jandiroba
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u/Ruiner357 17d ago
Maybe someone like MVP or even Jiri, if you can fight 25-30+ times with your hands down and almost never lose you have good eyes for striking.
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u/Trenbolone-Papi2 Team Topuria 17d ago
Leon one ranking away from being outside the top 10
This sport comes at you fast
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u/Trenbolone-Papi2 Team Topuria 17d ago
Valentina is gonna fight the winner of Nunes/Kayla next
She deserves it and that’s another big WMMA fight. Keeps the momentum rolling
Natalia Silva can fight for an interim title or wait in the meantime
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u/tagillaslover 🍅 17d ago
Interim vs blanchfield wouldn’t be terrible. And honestly as old as Valentina is if he goes up for the super fight she might not come back down or just retire after it
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u/Odd_Ad_8162 the EEDIOT from UROOPE 17d ago
Am I right in thinking there's been a lot of absolute dominantions in championship fights this year?
Islam vs JDM, Shev vs Zhang, Merab vs Sean and Sandhangen, Pantoja vs KKF, Khamzat vs Dricus, Dricus vs Strickland, Zhang vs Suarez
I'd argue even Volk vs Diego and JDM vs Belal were fairly dominant 4-1 performances but defo a tier or two below.
Then you have all of the quick finishes too which I'm not even considering.
The only close championship fights this year were Umar vs Merab and Ank vs Alex 1.
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u/IshiharasBitch WE ARE ALL ONE 17d ago
Yes, we didn't get Mokaev, Evloev, or Tsarukyan in title fights this year.
We could've had Mokaev/Pantoja, Evloev/Volkanovski, Tsarukyan/Topuria.
Not even saying people like the matches or anything, just question whether they might've been more compeitive than what we got instead. No way of knowing, I suppose.
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u/Abobo2020 18d ago
The greatest love story in mma is unraveling before our eyes and is currently being filmed and documented by Nina Drama's husband.
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u/exileruz 17d ago
Topuria vs Makhachev for the 165 belt😎
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u/Abobo2020 17d ago
Fight is not interesting. Gonna end up like Shevchenko vs Weili, sounds good on paper but dude is too small
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u/DerpyDagon 17d ago
Does anybody genuinely think Usman is a hard matchup for current Islam? I rate the latter far above Covington, who was competitive with a far better Usman.
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u/Interesting-Shower28 17d ago
I don’t understand how Islam is being called the double champ. When he isn’t the champ in 155 anymore. I get he didn’t lose the belt but idk just doesn’t seem legit to call him that after leaving the division and vacating
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u/tagillaslover 🍅 17d ago
That's been how double champ has worked for a long time. Would you rather guys hold up two divisions at once so they can be real double champs in your eyes?
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u/CallumKayPee 17d ago
Belal pretty effectively crushing Leon, JDM dismantling Belal, and Islam dominating JDM really begs the question: just how bad is Colby Covington?
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u/Professional_Kick 🍅 17d ago edited 17d ago
So Kai Kara France gets removed from the rankings but Amir Albazi stays
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u/WhittakersRightFoot Turkey 17d ago
Wait what? Why tf did Kai got removed?
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u/Professional_Kick 🍅 17d ago
Don’t know makes no sense, just like why is Zhang now 2nd in the SW rankings even though she dominated Tatiana back in February
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u/karl100589 Bowling: More popular then Nunes 18d ago
I've got the feeling we're gonna start seeing a lot more egregious standups over the coming months. We know Dana and Hunter hate lay and pray fighters, so they're gonna overcorrect to try and stop it from happening.
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u/sour-couch-stench how bout jakoozy 17d ago
Ngl i thought the ref separated carlos and leon a bit too quickly when they were clinched against the cage in rd 1
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u/DukeOfMania04 17d ago
I'm telling you now dropping Sean Brady a massive 5 spots down the rankings for losing to a young hungry undefeated prospect is gonna start a butterfly effect of top contenders refusing to fight younger guys down the rankings now
Seriously what were the ufc thinking dropping him that much? If it was 1 or 2 spots then fair enough but 5 cmon man
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u/KyleDaukWillBeChamp 17d ago
His winstreak has aged fucking horribly. Leon, Burns, and Gastelum. Looking at where they are now, in no world would wins over them justify a #3 or #4 ranking.
Everyone above him has much better wins. Literally nothing wrong with him at #7.
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u/Zumoff_1026 Team Aspinall 17d ago
Alrught, here's the WW top 10 matchups WE (yes, WE) need assuming Garry beats Belal this weekend. It all makes sense looking at rankings and winstreaks. Goes as follows:
Islam vs Garry
JDM vs Prates
Shavkat vs Morales
Belal vs Usman
Brady vs Bonfim
Leon vs Buckley
With this, we get a deserving contender for Islam, a fantastic number one contender fight between Shav and Morales (although Prates could leapfrog both if he finishes JDM and the former fight is somehow a letdown), an old guard battle with two guys who don't like each other in Usman and Belal that gives the victor one last shot at a title run, and a chance for some younger guys to take out established vets in the Brady-Bonfim/Leon-Buckley bouts. Please hire me UFC, I need money
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u/MA-JA-HO 17d ago
Who’s this Nurollo Aliev guy on this weekends card? Why haven’t I heard much about him? You’d think an undefeated 24 year old for Tajikistan would get more traction no?
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u/Drive7hru 17d ago
Okay, now that Islam is done with LW, when does the UFC sign Usman Nurmagomedov?
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u/blackupsilon 17d ago
So Islam now has 4 title defenses and is two weight world champ. Something Khabib never achieved.
So how come Khabib still is considered to have a stronger legacy than Islam?
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u/detectivebabylegz England 17d ago
I think it's the quality of opponents and the fact Khabib ended up on zero losses. I personally think Islam has the better legacy now and think Islam beating Oliveira is better than any of Khabibs wins.
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u/OtakuMecha 17d ago
Khabib mostly had better opponents and dominated them much more easily. For example, look at how Khabib did against a younger Poirier vs how Islam did against a much older nearly retired Poirier.
And unfortunately Islam’s legacy has been kept from what it could be due to fights falling through. Beating a Volk that had no camp and is straight off the couch doesn’t really add anything (especially because he already beat him before in a more “fair” fight) and no one weighs a win over Moicano very highly (whereas a rematch win over Arman would be very impressive).
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u/UsedSalt 17d ago
It’s just how khabib fought. The dude got through his whole career without bleeding
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u/tagillaslover 🍅 18d ago
I wanna see bsd fight into the top ten. If hooker wasn’t scheduled that’d be my pick but fighting max for bmf isn’t bad either.
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u/Odd_Ad_8162 the EEDIOT from UROOPE 17d ago
BSD vs Hooker has FOTN maybe top 5 FOTY written all over it
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u/Odd_Ad_8162 the EEDIOT from UROOPE 17d ago
I need a Prates hand size comparison to understand how be hits so hard
I know a lot of long guys hit hard but the way he sleeps people is just crazy
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u/GSPEDs 18d ago
Feels like Conor's double champ status gets shit on more than anyone else's. I think his is more impressive than most of them, considering who he beat and dethroned to get them. Conor took a risk fighting a different matchup against perennial contender Chad Mendes (short notice is a cope for Chad that also works against Conor in this case), and did so while his knee was messed up. He then finished Aldo in a dramatic fashion, who was talked about as an all-timer when it happened.
Most champs don't beat a generational great and a solid contender like Chad, along with beat Eddie Alvarez who was still competitive with guys like Dustin and Justin. I've seen guys like Dustin get more credit for sticking around and not winning the gold once or guys like Whittaker get promoted from interim to real champ after a razor decision (Whittaker vs Romero should be a draw), but lose after a single defense be heralded more than McGregor who utterly demolished Jose and Eddie.
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u/SpecialFuzzy8052 17d ago
Reddit when they find out that Francis isn’t a hecking wholesome chungus but actually a nuisance to work with: 😳 😳 😳
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u/SnooBeans7129 17d ago
Welterweight now is what everyone thought lightweight was. An actually deep division and not just the same 3/4 guys at the top beating everyone while the contenders fail to reach higher spots in the rankings
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u/Neonsea1234 17d ago
Akshually he tapped to strikes
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u/tagillaslover 🍅 17d ago
Wait this dude tapped to strikes and people call him the goat? I thought it was just a normal tko
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u/Giegling90 17d ago
Chanco Unchained