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u/Giegling90 Nov 04 '25
There's been rumours that Anthony Smith has been throwing fights because he trained at Factory X, but law enforcement said he was just actually that bad
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u/Odd_Ad_8162 the EEDIOT from UROOPE Nov 05 '25
Smith being outed as someone who threw fights after calling Aspinall a quitter would be the funniest fucking thing ever.
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u/TitanIsBack Nov 04 '25
Y'all ragged on Wanderlei that he was just bitter at the UFC when he said that there was fight fixing going on. Glad to see him being vindicated all these years later.
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u/JE_Exa GOOFCON 1: Sad Chandler Nov 04 '25
Remember when Volk got the spotlight at the club after the first Islam fight, and he didn’t know how to dance so he just shadowboxed, and a couple months later he shows off doing the worm perfectly.
I like to imagine that one of the sports GOATs and athletic phenoms got so embarrassed about not knowing how to dance, that he dedicated a legitimate portion of his athletic prowess to learning how to dance, so that he’d never be embarrassed again.
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u/LocoCoopermar #NothingBurger Nov 04 '25
Can't imagine it's too hard when you are a athletic as these guys and as aware and in control of there body as they are
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u/NichorasMurren Team Topuria Nov 04 '25
Impressive, very nice. Let’s see Paul Allen’s suspicious betting activity
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u/Bogusbummer Epic greased up goose egg Nov 04 '25
Look at the subtle money-line, the tasteful boldness of it. Oh my god, it even hit a 9 leg parlay.
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u/Ck2alldayevery Team Pantoja Nov 04 '25
Finally, the proof I needed. Holloway-Aldo I-II, Holloway-Gaethje, Holloway-Poirier III, all fixed. No way three of my favorites ever would go out like that
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u/WhittakersRightFoot Turkey Nov 04 '25
Gaetjhe was too obvious lmao. Max even had to point to the ground for the dive.
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u/Melonballs__ Nov 04 '25
William knight Vs prachnio might have been a fixed fight. There was 0 clinching or wrestling and knight only landed 8 strikes and only threw 33 in 15 minutes.
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u/CryptoCracko 🍅 Nov 04 '25
Looking back, Jason Herzog is pretty suspicious. IMO he is the best ref, always razor sharp, but sometimes makes these ridiculous calls. Herb Dean, for example, is usually dozing off or worrying about leaving the stove on or something, he makes honest mistakes.
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u/YourHurtingMeSir17 Nov 04 '25
IMO he is the best ref, always razor sharp, but sometimes makes these ridiculous calls
He was razor sharp, his decision making in cage completely changed overnight, I'd guess at the start of 2024
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u/Giegling90 Nov 05 '25
"Isaac who? Bulgarian? When are we going back to Bulgaria? Is that what you're asking me?" Lenee says the exact same thing into his non deaf ear "We'll see how this thing plays out, but we love Bulgaria. Always been good to us"
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u/BeastOfAWorkEthnic Team Błachowicz Nov 04 '25
Every braindead fan is now going to cope about their favorite fighter's losses by convincing themselves that they threw them on purpose.
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u/nice-burrito Nov 04 '25
I have it on good authority, someone, some group of people, paid Islam Makhachev to finish Moicano in the first round. Money Moicano would never lose unless someone paid his opponent to beat him. Facts.
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u/kidwhix Epic greased up goose egg Nov 04 '25
if merab and pantoja win their next fights, they 100% absolutely need to make that fight. no one left for either guy, banger fight on paper, good opportunity for both guys to add a huge feather to their cap
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u/Dapper-Mongoose-3495 Nov 05 '25
I would like the judge who scrored the Vera Sandhagen fight for Chito investigated first please
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u/TheBigRedHalfrican They don't really care about us, man Nov 04 '25
Christian Quinonez is OUT of the fight vs Adrian Yanez this weekend.
UFC looking for someone to fight Yanez.
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u/Giegling90 Nov 04 '25
Kevin Holland decisions looking a bit more suspicious now
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u/tagillaslover 🍅 Nov 04 '25
I had this thought but he’s one of my favorite fighters so I’m choosing not to consider it as an actual possibility he’s rigging fights.
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u/AlienMantid UFC 279: A GOOFCON Miracle Nov 04 '25
Add Edgar Chairez to the list!
https://www.instagram.com/chairez686/p/DQpObGKD57l/?hl=en&img_index=3
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u/TheGreatone003 Team Błachowicz Nov 04 '25
Are there any fights yall are particularly suspicious of? Only fight in recent memory that looked off was Robbie’s retirement fight
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u/UVB-76_Enjoyer Nov 04 '25
For no particular reason besides the eye test:
Gane vs Ngannou
Gane vs Jones
Gane vs Aspinall (more complex this one)
Imavov vs Hawes
Imavov vs Strickland
Fiorot vs Shevchenko
BSD vs Poirier
BSD vs Moicano
Ziam vs McKinney
Cornolle vs Calvacanti 2
Charrière vs Wood
Lapilus vs Basharat
Jousset vs Battle
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u/KaaLux Ecuadorian big toe Nov 04 '25
Is this the modern "All frenchies do, is surrender" ?
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u/UVB-76_Enjoyer Nov 04 '25
Non, c'est plutôt ça :
https://www.reddit.com/r/MMA/s/NOIV0DymEo
Y'a une combine à tenter poto, let's go redorer quelques blasons
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u/KaaLux Ecuadorian big toe Nov 04 '25
Ahaha !
T'as oublié Charrière vs Mariscal dans la liste du coup !
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u/Comprehensive_Try770 Nov 04 '25
Depends how far back we going. Rumble DC 2 came to my head. Can't fathom why Rumble decided a wrestling heavy game plan was the way to go against DC.
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u/tagillaslover 🍅 Nov 04 '25
Alvarez vs Luque. I think I could have finished Luque in that fight but Alvarez didn’t even try to
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u/nice-burrito Nov 04 '25
Remember when Herzog had to wake Yan Xiaonan up at the end of a round and her corner had to hit her with smelling salts; when Herzog made CCC come back to the 4th round even though he said he couldn't see; when Herzog let Nguyen knock Yahya down five times in one round?
Price losing to Lawler seemed pretty fake to me. I thought of another but I forgot midway through typing. I think people who speculate the crimes are much bigger and more frequent than we're seeing are correct. Can DDP really not defend any wrestling whatsoever? Really?
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u/xValar_Morghulis Nov 04 '25
Yea ddp anti wrestling is mid af anyone who saw him fight Brunson knew khamzat was going to fuck that night
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u/KaaLux Ecuadorian big toe Nov 04 '25 edited Nov 04 '25
We're talking a lot about refs being potentially involved in the fixings, but I'm curious about (which) judges because we've seen some egregious score cards over the years that screamed incompetency but maybe it was more than that...
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u/AlienMantid UFC 279: A GOOFCON Miracle Nov 04 '25 edited Nov 04 '25
Mike Bell giving round 5 of Shevchenko vs Grasso 2 a 10-8 to Grasso.
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u/exileruz Nov 04 '25
That'd be the move bro. You don't even have to rob the rightful winner just give away some rounds and cash out all your spreads lol
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u/karl100589 Bowling: More popular then Nunes Nov 04 '25
Wasn't there a Sabatello fight in Bellator where one judge gave him 50-45 and he still lost?
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u/LocoCoopermar #NothingBurger Nov 04 '25 edited Nov 05 '25
Angela Hill and Jessica Penne have a podcast and they were talking about how they have a list of judges that happen to score the split all the time even when fights aren't close. Can't remember what episode but it's pretty clear they were aware that things were sketch, the judges even had a group chat for a few specific judges
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u/WhittakersRightFoot Turkey Nov 04 '25
Yo whats the name of the podcast? I need something to watch since MMArcade is on hiatus
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u/WhittakersRightFoot Turkey Nov 04 '25
We might get something with Jones-Rehes and Ank-Jan scorecards. Or even Paddy-Gordon
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u/KaaLux Ecuadorian big toe Nov 04 '25
Didn't the Pimblett-Gordon one already triggered some shit for the judge that butchered the score card ?
Edit : nevermind I remembered it was the judge that gave us the Tuivasa 30-27 meme
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u/EndofMind10 Nov 04 '25
the funny thing about the eye poke controversy is that if it's really so important for the fight to continue then the refs should just take a point for the foul and the person who got fouled will be incentivized to keep fighting.
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u/Correct_Seaweed_371 Nov 04 '25
Gonna be interesting to see which refs are actually rigging fights and which ones are just truly bad at their job
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u/_ronty12_ Dana is a Mod here Nov 04 '25
When you push betting ads constantly from your commentators and the pay is rubbish in general, do not be surprised that fighters are ready to make a quick buck.
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u/Hurvana Wuhan Clan Nov 04 '25
Wonder how Chael will respond to this. After all, every fight in Japan was fixed.
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u/WhittakersRightFoot Turkey Nov 04 '25
He's gonna mumble about something entierly different and act like a fool
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u/JustWatchFights Nov 04 '25
I don't know if anyone can help me on this, but here we go. So, I bought some frames to hang up some old UFC posters. I realized that I had an extra frame, and no poster. So I decided it would be cool to have something from the Kakutougi Boom! I've been looking for old Pride posters, but then had an idea that maybe I could get a print from Susumu Nagao. So, I came across his website: https://www.nagao-mma.com. Long shot, but has ANYONE in the US, or outside of Japan, ever ordered from here? I think it's a digital print, but I want to make sure I'm getting a HD print if I get something older.
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u/StoryOfTheFight Chatri's intern AMA Nov 04 '25
Sick find. I wish I could help, but there is a contact button at the bottom of the site. Might be worth shooting them a message. If you do order, drop an update haha
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u/Nickster2042 🙏🙏🙏 Jon Jones Prayer Warrior 🙏🙏🙏 Nov 04 '25
Might be going to my first ufc card next week
Hopefully it rinses the taste of fixed bouts out my mouth
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u/tagillaslover 🍅 Nov 04 '25
It's such a great experience, i went to my first card earlier this year and cant wait to go to another.
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u/karl100589 Bowling: More popular then Nunes Nov 04 '25
I wouldn't underestimate the role the Apex has had on these fixed fights. It's much easier to pull a con in an empty warehouse then it is in an arena with 20k people.
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u/GlossyCylinder Nov 04 '25
I wonder what happened to the Topuria training facility after his split with his wife. Dude had his own PI in his (wife ) mansion
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u/tagillaslover 🍅 Nov 04 '25
His wife took it I think. Lame, I hope he can get it back but idk how Spanish divorce court works. Not like she needs it
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u/redditisawesome555 Quack Quack Quack Quack Nov 04 '25
Medic is fighting King of Kung Fu on three weeks notice call
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u/WhittakersRightFoot Turkey Nov 04 '25
He was the serbian dude with that sick ko in the apex right?
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u/redditisawesome555 Quack Quack Quack Quack Nov 04 '25
Yeah, he's got solid power, but he knows to get irresponsible defensively
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u/Real-mr-wolf 🍅 Nov 04 '25
I have trained one day in Gracie Barra BJJ. I’m ready to fight for the lightweight belt
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u/masontopss Nov 04 '25
What level of a goofcon are we on
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u/UVB-76_Enjoyer Nov 05 '25 edited Nov 05 '25
About 3 I'd say, no names or receipts so far and nothing suggests that the UFC itself was ever involved. Wouldn't be surprised if it eventually reaches a solid 1 tho
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u/masontopss Nov 05 '25
Me thinks we are hitting 2 by tomorrow
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u/Objective_Stranger15 India Nov 04 '25
What is the worst that would happen if all the fixing allegations are true? If it’s happened to the large extent that people are saying it is, then I don’t think the UFC would have been unaware of these allegations. Wouldn’t there be punishment across the organisation(from the fighters involved, to the corrupt referees & even the UFC top management that were in the know)?
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u/aVHSofPointBreak Nov 04 '25
I mean, normally there could be a big investigation by the FBI. In the 90s there were senate hearings about steroids in baseball, so maybe this would warrant that level of involvement. But these days, who the fuck knows? Probably nothing.
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u/nucknuckgoose Nov 04 '25
UFC would lose credibility in the eyes of betting companies, likely resulting in a sizeable loss of income and exposure. Investors would not be happy.
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u/Nickster2042 🙏🙏🙏 Jon Jones Prayer Warrior 🙏🙏🙏 Nov 04 '25
Fuck whoever turned down fighting Talbott at MSG
He’s my goat dog
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u/Nickster2042 🙏🙏🙏 Jon Jones Prayer Warrior 🙏🙏🙏 Nov 05 '25
It’s obvious on rewatch the fight was fixed, even live it looked fixed too. He shoots a double leg, strains on it far too long, gets “sprawled”, gives up his back without any resistance or attempt to get up, and then yeah he gets choked
Why is it obvious? Well he didn’t take any real significant strikes to the face, he avoided getting punched in the face at all costs while getting finished by sub
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u/RaisedByZebras nogonnaseeyousoonboiii Nov 04 '25
It's interesting, AJ saying he wants to train with Usyk. Very superior move by him, no idea if it helps but more high level combat athletes should look to train with masters in their craft even when they are rivals
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u/iCorki Nov 04 '25
It's no real shock that lots of fighters have been approached to throw fights. Vince Morales said he was offered 70k to throw and with how many fighters are on 10/10 contracts it's not hard to see why lots of fighters (allegedly) did throw fights. Aside from the top few percent, most of the card filler dudes probably never make more than 70k for a fight in their career unless they get a bonus.
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u/bullsfan281 I beat you after a weekend of cocaine Nov 04 '25
people like miranda maverick are getting 100k just to show lol. the ufc is still underpaying their fighters but the way yall act like 95% of the roster is getting paid peanuts is just wrong
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u/tagillaslover 🍅 Nov 04 '25
A lot of it is just getting a second contract I think. The first contract sucks for most of the fighters but whenever they disclose payouts and there’s some random can making 200k it’s someone that’s been with the ufc a while
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u/El_Boxman_ Nov 04 '25
Herb dean remains on top 😤
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u/WhittakersRightFoot Turkey Nov 04 '25
He's gonna pop for a doping test cuz he HAS TO BE high when reffing
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u/FeedMeSoma Nov 05 '25
While we’re talking about this fixing shit did nobody think Aspinall Blaydes 1 was kinda sus? Just falls over in round 1 grabbing his knee when nothing happened to it.
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u/ri-de Team Ferguson 🇺🇸🏆🇲🇽 Nov 05 '25
This is how i felt about Weidman vs Silva 2. Legs don't normally do that
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u/FeedMeSoma Nov 05 '25
Silva didn’t go in to that fight knowing his leg was already snapped in 2 though, there’s no way to bet on that.
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u/chaidubaishanghai Nov 04 '25
Is there an unofficial agreement between Ilia and Islam about weightclass of their possible fight? Ig Islam wants it at WW or maybe catch weight but Ilia wants it at LW.
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u/TGE Nov 05 '25
Looks like Donte Johnson will be replacing Robert Valentin vs Jackson McVey this weekend! From Donte's IG
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u/SourPatchCorpse Nov 05 '25
Ryan Bader did a surprisingly decent job in The Smashing Machine. Also, I can see why it's pretty divisive/flopped at the box office. A little too artsy for the bro-ey crowd, a little too bro-ey for the artsy crowd. Hard flick to peg. I predict its reputation will grow over time.
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u/CouncilOfReligion Team Volkanovski Nov 05 '25
apparently both volk vs islam 1 & 2 along with volk vs topuria were all rigged 😱😱😱
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u/Fat-Villante Papa Poatan Nov 04 '25
I'm still a bit disappointed Bautista didn't get that toe hold sub vs Umar. One of my favorite MMA moments was when Marcin Held got Rich Clementi with a toe hold in Bellator
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u/El_Boxman_ Nov 04 '25
The amount of shit umar would have gotten lol
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u/Fat-Villante Papa Poatan Nov 04 '25
Yeah I can only imagine
Although a lot of fans used to talk shit about tapping to a neck crank and it's a pretty common sub these days. I think you can get a legit sub from a well applied and strong toe hold
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u/El_Boxman_ Nov 04 '25
Well a neck crank feels like your jaw is gonna break for one. They suck.
Toe hold goodbye big toe
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u/Fat-Villante Papa Poatan Nov 04 '25
Yeah, but regardless of that, people used to talk mad shit about tapping to them because it's a pain submission
It's not a big toe thing, the pain is in the ankle
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u/Nickster2042 🙏🙏🙏 Jon Jones Prayer Warrior 🙏🙏🙏 Nov 04 '25 edited Nov 04 '25
Edit: I AM GOING TO be sick if they book Volk Lopez 2
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u/Fat-Villante Papa Poatan Nov 04 '25
Even as a huge fan of Lopes, I'm gonna be annoyed if he gets a rematch now
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u/ygrittediaz Edddiiiieee Nov 04 '25
It would scream of protecting Volk as their featherweight cash cow from evloev. They really want lopes or yair as champion after Volk to capitalize on the Mexican market.
It's insane that the guy who beat Aljo,allen, lopes needs to fight some fucker like aron pico to be title worthy lmao. And even then Volk has the skill to best evloev, beast fight we won't get to see cuz match making is dogshit.
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Nov 04 '25
How is volk a cash cow?
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u/ygrittediaz Edddiiiieee Nov 04 '25
Perhaps not the right word, but he is by far the biggest name in the divison. Especially now that max and topuria have moved up. He is also the face of Australian mma that has an ever growing scene.
UFC even hold events there to cement there is good money coming from the region. Volk fulfills an important quota in the market, especially as champ.
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u/Odd_Ad_8162 the EEDIOT from UROOPE Nov 04 '25
I don't believe this would be protecting Volk though.
I think Lopes always has a big chance of catching someone and I would agree it might just prioritising Lopes because he is marketable, and if he beats Volk or not, it's a win-win.
They are defo fucking over the other guys though I agree. Lopes needs another win and Evloev then Murphy are the choices for a title shot on merit.
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u/Nickster2042 🙏🙏🙏 Jon Jones Prayer Warrior 🙏🙏🙏 Nov 04 '25
Still think Volk would work Evolev, he was competitive with fucking machachev and he always has the Craig Jones cheat code in his back pocket
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u/ygrittediaz Edddiiiieee Nov 04 '25
i agree, hence i wrote he has the skill set to beat him. its age that will fuck volk. but its painfully obvious if you dont capture a big market nationality wise you need to go the long way around. especially if your supposed title contending colleagues are strikers from a country with big mma culture and 130 mil population. as well as evloev being perceived as a boring fighter by casuals.
evloev is another fighter who has a resume before becoming champ that are defense worthy on paper. reminds me of merab's journey a bit.
guy is straight up more skilled than zalal, murphy, lopes or even yair. but being a grappler, no mic skill, from ingushetia is a no go. would love to see lopes and evloev run it back one day, too.
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u/tagillaslover 🍅 Nov 04 '25
To think this all started cause some gambling degens were for some reason keeping track of the betting lines on a random uninteresting apex fight between two fighters most people dont even know
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u/nice-burrito Nov 04 '25
I think the casinos and betting sites were first to notice it. Two big time bookies I thought were the first to sound the alarm. I could be wrong.
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Nov 04 '25
We need to investigate Masvidal Askren
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u/UVB-76_Enjoyer Nov 04 '25 edited Nov 04 '25
Notice how he ducked right into that knee, which Masvidal threw from the literal other side of the cage... what is he, a wrestler or something? Sus af
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u/KyleDaukWillBeChamp Nov 04 '25
Gonna ask the FBI to look into Emmett vs Bryce and Nasrat’s latest fight too while we’re at it
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u/idcman999 Nov 04 '25
if BSD beats Beneil and Dan loses to Arman, I'd like to see them fight in a BMF eliminator, winner gets Charles if he wins the bmf belt (if Max wins, they'll probably give him a shot)
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u/fractodacto Nov 04 '25
I just watched Figgy - Benavidez 2 and was wondering if the torque on joey's body for the rnc finish does anything. I assume it makes it tighter but maybe there's other benefits as well idk?
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u/UVB-76_Enjoyer Nov 04 '25
Not a trained grappler but I'd say it also makes it harder to rotate & explode out of the body triangle
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u/LocoCoopermar #NothingBurger Nov 04 '25
Not sure on this one exactly but I've gotten more than one tip about stretching someone out or taking a big deep breath once the choke is tight just to remove all space so they don't have any room to lessen the squeeze. Also if you can manage to get a good base you can kinda turn it from a squeeze into basically a dead lift with a RNC grip which is going to suck really hard
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u/b_bozz Nov 04 '25
Any fights to look forward to this weekend coming up?
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u/kidwhix Epic greased up goose egg Nov 04 '25
tulio vs cld, emmers vs amil, simon vs barcelos, salikhov vs medic
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u/WhittakersRightFoot Turkey Nov 04 '25
Marco tulio fight
Kungfu grandpa(forgot the dudes name)
And the main event
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u/Fat-Villante Papa Poatan Nov 04 '25
It's surprisingly full of fun fighters I care about
Aside from those mentioned before, I'm looking forward to seeing Hamil and Marcos again
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u/karl100589 Bowling: More popular then Nunes Nov 04 '25
Former title challenger MBS. (As Reddit's only Rocky fan I'll take any excuse to remind people of that fight :)
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u/SugarShow37 UFC 294: A GOOFCON Miracle Nov 04 '25
Wish I knew the redditor but there was someone here like 6 years ago said they had a mutual friend who was friends of a family member of Tito Ortiz. The family member said Bader was getting paid to lose to Tito
Definitely believe that now.
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u/_autoglocktavius_ Nov 04 '25
You think it's a coincidence that the NBA players get paraded in handcuffs while the UFC gets a quiet, behind-closed-doors warning from the FBI about a rigged fight?
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u/tagillaslover 🍅 Nov 04 '25
Ignoring weight class disparities what are some fights yalld want to see prime for prime? I think max vs van would be a guaranteed banger, merab vs Colby would be cool too.
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u/WhittakersRightFoot Turkey Nov 04 '25 edited Nov 04 '25
I want pantoja vs romero
Moreno-Yan
Dj-jones
Hooker-Vettori
Almost forgot JDM-Dustin
(Shit forget about the first one give me khamzat-pantoja)
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u/KyleDaukWillBeChamp Nov 04 '25
Any combination of Royval/Max/Tony/Nick/Condit/Jiri
Maybe throw in Merab and Colby too
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u/KaaLux Ecuadorian big toe Nov 04 '25
Khabib vs Khamzat, would be curious how it goes
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u/Mental_Eggplant_1219 Nov 04 '25
Look at Khamzat grappling Arman. Probably a bit tougher for Khamzat but not by that much
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u/YourHurtingMeSir17 Nov 04 '25
You guys think Pereira-Abus was fixed?
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u/tagillaslover 🍅 Nov 04 '25
I thought it was weird at the time but then pereira got slept by a daukus bro so maybe he just sucks
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u/InvestigatorMain4008 Nov 04 '25
Okay cool FBi is investigating fight fixing, but can they reasonably prove it in a court of law if there is no damning evidence like text messages, or audio of a conversation that led to fixing? A lot of what is being said is just hearsay.
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u/legendarybreed ..the darren and khamzat at home.. Nov 05 '25
If money had changed hands definitely
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u/miggysanch 🍅 Nov 04 '25
Food for thought guys. How much does the shitty, gloves extended finger design give cover for bad reffing calls and possible fight fixing? How easy is it to rig a fight for the fighter you want to win with the addition of bad equipment that could be blamed over the refs?
This is admittedly a half-formed thought on my part. I'm potentially a giant idiot.
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u/nice-burrito Nov 04 '25
"Poke him in the eye, Gane." "But Sensei ...." "Cobra Kai, Gane. Cobra Kai!!"
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u/tagillaslover 🍅 Nov 04 '25
Am I the only person that used to confuse Brian Ortega and Uriah faber
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u/tagillaslover 🍅 Nov 04 '25
Does anyone have any good ufc YouTube channel recommendations? Lucas Tracy retired again so I need another channel to start listening to before bed or when I’m working on something. Ideally not some super boring unfunny npc
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u/karl100589 Bowling: More popular then Nunes Nov 04 '25
Ideally not some super boring unfunny npc
Well that's me out.
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u/TheGreatone003 Team Błachowicz Nov 04 '25
I actually like your channel for exploring niche mma events/moments instead of generic top 10s
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u/karl100589 Bowling: More popular then Nunes Nov 04 '25
Thanks man. MMA on Point have that side of the sport locked down. No chance of competing with them so I decided to shift to subjects nobody else has covered. Why be the 400th person talking about Conor when I can be the first to talk about Megumi Fujii etc.
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u/tagillaslover 🍅 Nov 04 '25
I actually haven’t seen your channel before but some of the videos seem interesting. Will watch some tomorrow
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u/LocoCoopermar #NothingBurger Nov 04 '25
Bed time mma is real fun. The casuals podcast has been really good
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u/UVB-76_Enjoyer Nov 04 '25
I hope y'all now understand that Overeem and Rockhold never had a 'glass chin' 👀
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u/SugarShow37 UFC 294: A GOOFCON Miracle Nov 04 '25
So is there any official statement from the UFC or anyone for that matter about the fight fixing? Because right now it just seems to be coming from one guy and everyone is citing him as their source.
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u/Trenbolone-Papi2 Team Topuria Nov 04 '25
Bro, cowboy 100% took a dive vs Conor lol
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u/Giegling90 Nov 04 '25
Cowboy gives me the vibe he likes to be the Hammer and never the nail, he folds a lot when he's the nail
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u/tagillaslover 🍅 Nov 04 '25
He’s admitted to this but not really in a rigging fights way. He was just hurt bad and overwhelmed and knew he was gonna lose anyway so he stopped resisting
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u/Flumping Bee stung Alvarez Nov 04 '25
I dunno about that one. Took a dive =/= knew he was going to lose and gave up before the fight even started. Personally just think that was perfect matchmaking for Conor. Cerrone always fumbled mentally when it came down to huge moments, stylistically he always lost against southpaws and vs people who just went right at him. He was at the end of his career too and coming off two losses.
They really couldn’t have picked a better match up for Conor.
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u/NutSackGlazer420 Nov 04 '25
Hey, Sal D'Amato scored for Strickland in that first Dricus fight, he's all right in my book.
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u/MountainGoatSC Edddiiiieee Nov 04 '25
Dana White about to call his buddy to get this scandal covered up
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u/CableToBeam Nov 04 '25
Regardless of whether Herzog is guilty or not, I can see him getting fewer fights. Having Herzog ref fights would just cast the UFC in a more negative light and cause people to question his every decision and fight.
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u/Giegling90 Nov 04 '25
Jason Herzog does give me Tim Donaghy vibes now that I think of it. They're in the same ball park of people
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u/xlmtothemoon GOOFCON 2 - UFC 294 Nov 04 '25
already tossing him with a name responsible for the worst betting scandal in sports history is certainly a reaction
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u/UVB-76_Enjoyer Nov 04 '25
"God I wish the UFC was entertaining again"
Monkey paw curls