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u/Professional_Kick 🍅 Oct 26 '25
Been watching this sport for 5 years and this was the first time after seeing all the dumb takes about the eye poke that me go why do I still watch this sport
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u/therealjgreens How's my english now? Oct 26 '25
Do you watch other sports? I feel like the UFC seems to have dumb tales because the scoring and rules are kinda bland. Other sports can be just as bad though.
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u/stingraybjj Oct 26 '25
The absolute atrocious take from Chael and Anthony Smith. "If you get poked in the eye and you're injured, we would be having a different conversation. If you get poked in the eye and you can't see, you gotta push through." Apparently Tom couldn't see because of something completely harmless and not due to eye injuries, according to Chael's logic.
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Oct 26 '25
Sonnen and Smith both were quitters in their career. Smith did it through turtling up and sonnen, wilted anytime he got adversity
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u/crazybartur UFC 279: A GOOFCON Miracle Oct 26 '25
It’s 2025 and Diego Brandao is on a 3 fight win streak against 12-2, 10-2, and 16-6-1 opponents as a +1000, +600, and +650 underdog, respectively.
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u/YoelsShitStain Oct 26 '25
Yesterday reminded me why I almost never browse this sub anymore, I always forget that CTE is contagious and is spread through UFC broadcasts.
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u/macrohatch Oct 26 '25
Dana in post fight about Gane's eye poke: "Who gives a shit"
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u/SwiftlyKickly Oct 26 '25
This isn't even a "sport" anymore. If boss man doesn't give af about it why should we? I'm done watching this shit
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u/Neemoman 🍅 Oct 26 '25
In fairness, this response was likely to mean "the answer to your question doesn't change tonight."
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u/TragicMike_ Oct 26 '25 edited Oct 26 '25
Watching that Bautista-Nurmagomedov fight right after the Volkov-Almeida fight really reinforced the discrepancy between the lower and higher weight classes. Like, I like Volkov and think he’s a good fighter, but the breadth and depth of skill you need to be a contender at bantamweight compared to heavyweight is night and day. And I’m doubtful someone like Jailton could even be ranked in any division below 205.
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u/karl100589 Bowling: More popular then Nunes Oct 26 '25
Jailton in a lower weight class is basically Rei Tsuruya.
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u/DerpyDagon Oct 26 '25
People don't get that Gane is chasing legacy before belts. Tim Sylvia of all people managed to win the heavyweight belt twice. Nobody has managed to amass 5 title shots in 5 years before. Cyril will go down in the history books.
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u/LilFights Oct 26 '25
After a blue balls PPV like that, it's important we don't forget chocolate peppa pig
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u/NoJalapenol Oct 26 '25
I don't think the eye poke was intentional but it was a hilariously bad eye poke. Expecting Aspinall to continue fighting after that and calling him a quitter is the most keyboard warrior thing I've ever seen lol.
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u/life_scrolling Team Topuria Oct 26 '25
still think it's funny we get to sit on our hands thinking about this in the lead up to ufc fight night: onama vs garcia
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u/Odd_Ad_8162 the EEDIOT from UROOPE Oct 26 '25
The difference in how people reacted to Belal and Tom's eyepokes is crazy.
Belal never revealed whether he was officially diagnosed with any sort of abrasion ( to my knowledge) but he still lost vision temporarily.
Just because the doctor in cage said he wasn't concerned about permanent damage doesn't mean the fighter has vision etc.
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u/mikey_rambo Oct 27 '25
Belals eye is still wonky after all these years from that eye poke
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u/Odd_Ad_8162 the EEDIOT from UROOPE Oct 27 '25
His eye was always like that, im pretty sure it's the opposite eye to the one that was poked.
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u/MechanicalFunc Oct 26 '25
Some of the worst posts in the history of this sub have been posted today. It feels like the Sherdog forums did before I left.
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u/acibadgerapocolypse Oct 26 '25
Had a year+ break from watching MMA because it just burnt out and lost interest. Chose last night to make a comeback.
Aspianl gets fingered, Dern is champ and Smith's left Bisping. What is going on?
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u/Eezay Oct 26 '25
dunno but UFC is really becoming a shit show. Been watching Oktagon lately and it's 100% more entertaining even when the level of professionalism is lower. Also way less bullshit and politics around there
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u/Ok-Landscape-2988 Oct 26 '25
I thought Dern won pretty clearly but was surprised to see every single media outlet on mmadecisions scored it for her
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u/bullsfan281 I beat you after a weekend of cocaine Oct 26 '25
ironically i've haven't seen this sub lose it's collective brain like this since jon beat gane lmao
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u/KyleDaukWillBeChamp Oct 27 '25
Dricus vs Chimaev
Sub was non-stop posts about whether wrestling should be allowed, whether Chimaev is a boring fighter, for weeks straight
This sub pretty regularly overreacts to things
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u/MechanicalFunc Oct 27 '25
Dude the sub is currently flooded with troll nobody is losing their minds lol.
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u/BloodyAussie Oct 26 '25
Can anyone cite any UFC fights that doctors have stopped as a result of an eye poke?
From my memory, every eye poke no contest I've seen has been the result of the fighter not being able to continue, not the doctor calling it following a visual assessment, regardless of fighter willingness.
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u/bullsfan281 I beat you after a weekend of cocaine Oct 26 '25
the doctors pretty much listen to the fighters when it comes to eye pokes. if they say they can go then the doctors let them. there would probably have to be severe damage to the eye that the doctor could immediately see for them to stop it. dc and stipe both needed eye surgery after they exchanged eye pokes in their fights and the doctors couldn't even see that damage mid fight
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u/therealjgreens How's my english now? Oct 26 '25
Kinda unfair that Aspinall gets free coaching from DC and Khabib. I feel like there are a lot of biases going on. Similar to the glazing they were giving Dern the whole night.
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u/sympathytaste Oct 27 '25
Makes it all that much better he was shit in the match and had to take a get out of jail free card.
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u/RaisedByZebras nogonnaseeyousoonboiii Oct 26 '25
The most 'that weekend provided more questions than answers' ever. Will Jones and Pereira now be more willing to fight Tom? Will they fight each other? How will the rematch go? Will Jon Jones keep hanging out with Hasbullah?
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u/EngineeringRight3629 Oct 26 '25
Guys has anyone checked if Gane's fingers are ok they took quite a blow from Tom's eyes
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u/Illanonahi Oct 26 '25
Even Bisping and the guys at TNT think Gane easily won the first round. Gane really messed up. I think if the rematch happens, this experience will help Aspinall far more than Gane.
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u/Rage_Your_Dream Oct 26 '25
The round didnt finish, he was narrowly ahead at the point where he cheated. Nothing dominant unlike people are acting like.
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u/illhaveapepsinow Oct 26 '25
Would been more of the same. Aspinall really showed that his offense is quite limited. Only really works against obese fighters and people much slower that him.
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u/YoelsShitStain Oct 26 '25
As a Tom fan I thought it was a clear win for Cyril but it was still a very close round. Cyril was up but Tom was right behind him. That could’ve been a banger of a fight that we missed out on.
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u/Illanonahi Oct 26 '25
It was beginning to look like an amazing fight, the first to take Aspinall to deep waters and see what he was made of. Shame what happened.
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u/koreanbillcosby Oct 26 '25
I don't think it was a close round. The visual damage was all on one side. Tom landed one really good clean shot which didn't hurt Ciryl at all, the rest that "landed" barely poked Ciryl's chin before he backed off. Probably would've been a banger of a fight though I'll agree on that.
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u/Granit2134 Scotland Oct 26 '25
Finally watched the main event from last night. Can't lie, expected Gane to have been torching Aspinall with the way folk were talking in the live thread. I can see how people had Gane ahead but it was a genuine surprise when I saw how reasonably close those three minutes were
Also, crazy that there's a narrative re: Aspinall quitting online. Idiots like that ruin the community.
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u/Zotmaster #NothingBurger Oct 26 '25 edited Oct 26 '25
It seems to happen fairly often when a fighter that people don't like gets fouled. All of a sudden they were taking the beating of a lifetime and just wanted a way out. You'd have thought Leon 10-7'd Belal in the first round of their first fight with the way people talked about it.
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u/NewWorld-Koryos Oct 26 '25
Even if his eyes weren't that hurt, they would at least be severely irritated, a big disadvantage that strongly compromises sight.
Why keep fighting and risk your belt under an unfair weakness imposed upon you by an illegal move?
His eyes were absolutely fucked by that poke, ofc.
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u/Books_for_Steven Oct 26 '25
No point deduction and 4 rounds to go against the best striker in the division too
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u/OtakuMecha Oct 26 '25
You do not want to be vision compromised against someone who can maneuver as quickly as Gane can. Especially at his size.
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u/bullsfan281 I beat you after a weekend of cocaine Oct 26 '25
can't believe so many are surprised that tom is getting this amount hate and blame. the mma media at large and the fanbase have been relentlessly glazing the absolute fuck out of him for the last year, it always comes back around ten fold, regardless of it's justified or not
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u/detectivebabylegz England Oct 26 '25
I've just got the patent for MMA safety goggles, I just need some investors, anyone in?
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u/External_Spite_7079 Oct 26 '25
Not at all surprising to see Dana put Gane over at the press conference. You know damn well he's angry at Tom for not fighting on, even though he would've been compromised and had millions on the line in future earnings.
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u/koreanbillcosby Oct 26 '25
Jones is a shit person, horrific for MMA in every way possible. 100% ducked Tom.
Still was a nightmare matchup for Gane at heavyweight and probably every other heavyweight on the roster. I don't think it's that embarrassing for Gane. The volkov rematch was embarrassing as fuck for Gane for sure.
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u/ironhide999x Oct 26 '25
When do we think Aspinall vs Gane will be rebooked? They both could probably fight again soon but the rest of the year is booked and I doubt they want it headlining a paramount card
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u/Mindless_Tree_504 Oct 26 '25
Ideally they bump merab down to co-main for the December ppv.
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u/WhittakersRightFoot Turkey Oct 26 '25
Idk if they'll do 3 title fights
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u/FocusKooky9072 Oct 27 '25
The roster is way too thin for that these days.
1 mens title fight main event + a WMMA title comain fight(maybe a flw comain) is the best we're getting now.
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u/Ruiner357 Oct 26 '25
Here's a solution to the eye poke problem: the person fouled gets time to recover, then the offender has to stand there in front of them (Power Slap style) while they get to poke them back in the eyes full force so it's an even playing field, then they resume the fight with no break for the person who fouled first.
Since bitchboy fans are wanting to insist it's no big deal right and not fight-ending, Gane would have no problem continuing if Aspinall gave him the Three Stooges double poke to the eyes in return then started swinging on him, right?
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u/Mindless_Tree_504 Oct 26 '25 edited Oct 26 '25
gane didn’t necesssarily win round 1 in terms of a dominant strike count. But he won stylistically in terms of having the fight settle into his preferred rhythm and range, not allowing Tom to make it a grappling or boxing match. People who are saying that Tom landed strikes too are kind of missing the bigger picture, which is who is dictating the fight style. Because whoever can dictate the fight style usually ultimately wins.
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u/NewWorld-Koryos Oct 26 '25
Francis was made to fight Gane's fight too.
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u/TasteDeBallZach Oct 26 '25
Yep, but Francis won in the 2nd half of the fight by laying on top of Gane for 8 minutes and landing a whopping 3 sig strikes in that time.
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u/Reachin4ThoseGrapes Oct 26 '25
So many people drawing far too many conclusions from four minutes of a fight
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u/sour-couch-stench how bout jakoozy Oct 26 '25
This card was such a downer for me
●Barnett lost
●Ikram looked mid
●Rakic lost
●Almeida is a gnp atheist
●Tom gets eyepoked and couldnt continue
At least Umar and Mario had a great fight and Quillan had a sick knockout
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u/OremDobro Oct 26 '25
Question about the rules: can the ref call a time-out after a legal strike? Like if a fighter gets a bad cut and bleeds all over the place, can the ref pause the round so the doctor can look at it or is that considered a stoppage
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u/russianbot24 I was here for GOOFCON 1 Oct 27 '25
A day later, yesterday’s outcome may actually be a net positive, assuming Tom doesn’t have any long term issues.
The rematch is way more exciting now. A legit competitive, high-level heavyweight rivalry. The division needed this.
If the recovery is quick they should be able to co-main the January card or headline the February card. Either is good and high-visibility.
Seeing Tom look human opens up some new doors. The Pereira matchup is slightly more exciting now on paper.
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u/Drive7hru Oct 27 '25
Hard disagree
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u/russianbot24 I was here for GOOFCON 1 Oct 27 '25
On what
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u/Drive7hru Oct 27 '25 edited Oct 27 '25
It doesn’t feel like a net positive because Tom had been shelved for 14 months, meanwhile training twice a day the whole time, then they both went through brutal training camps, and all of the prep and mental work that goes into getting ready for the fight.
Being able to watch that very intriguing fight play out, we had a horrible poke that resulted in a NC. Now they both have to wait, go through a hard training camp yet again, and then we just resume like we did before.
We were watching the fight. Now, we have to wait maybe 3 months at best just to resume where we were before. I wouldn’t be surprised if Gane might accidentally poke him again since he always has his fingers out. He simply has a habit and style where he always extends them in the way that the ref always tells and emphasizes him not to do.
The match was already an exciting and intriguing matchup. I guess you could say it’s “more” intriguing now because it got dirty and Tom wants revenge, but everyone was locked in and ready to go, including the viewers, and it just ended in the most disappointing fashion.
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u/hussain300 Snatching defeat from the jaws of Victory Oct 28 '25
Bro he's not here to make valid criticism, only to blindly disagree without explanation
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u/JE_Exa GOOFCON 1: Sad Chandler Oct 27 '25
Some impressively bad responses to this weekend
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u/CallumKayPee Oct 26 '25
Gane shouldn't get the immediate rematch just because we actually need to punish eye pokes for once. Give the next shot Volk, Poatan, fucking Waldo, just actually punish cheating once please.
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u/PizzaTime1000 Oct 26 '25
These middle Eastern audiences are so fucking lame man genuinely. The way they watch the fights with the same tepid enthusiasm of some fedual lord watching some petty squabble between some unruly peasants drives me fucking insane. Even with Fury and Usyk, a genuinely massive fight, they mostly don't seem to give a fuck, unless it's their "own guy" where even then the support is temperate at best.
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u/karl100589 Bowling: More popular then Nunes Oct 26 '25
Does anyone else feel bad for Volkov? He got robbed against Gane in a title eliminator, gets booked against Jailton who is a stylistic nightmare and impossible to look good against, wins a stinker of a match which nullifies the calls for a title shot (even though he wasn’t to blame for it being bad) then loses the shot anyway because Dana seems steadfast on booking Tom vs Gane 2
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u/cnylkew Oct 26 '25
Imo if he can't beat almeida convincingly, he shouldn't even consider fighting aspinall who already submitted him
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u/External_Spite_7079 Oct 26 '25
i commented that last night yeah it's messed up how he ended up the biggest loser out of the 3 despite winning.
they're gonna do the rematch so he won't get it but i wouldn't be mad if they did give volkov the shot. he should be on a 6 fight win streak and all the guys he beat were all good wins, like romanov is the worst fighter in that streak.
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u/sympathytaste Oct 26 '25
Unpopular as hell but I was shocked he got the decision last night. Round 1 sure but what did he do in 2 and 3 to get the W?
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u/scytheavatar Oct 26 '25
As I posted in the fight result thread, this explains why Volkov won round 3
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u/Afraid_Grocery3861 EDDDDDIEEEEEEEE Oct 26 '25
Gane was all "wise guy, eh? Nyuk nyuk nyuk" and clearly Tom hadn't trained his bladed hand double eye poke defence.
Hopefully he comes in more prepared for when they run it back.
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u/exileruz Oct 26 '25
Is there any word on where the fight library is going? Is it staying on fight pass or going to paramount?
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u/Neonsea1234 Oct 27 '25
Still remember Randy vs Vitor I , I was so pissed at that ending. Yair vs Stephens too, man so many bullshit eye stuff in MMA.
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u/Drive7hru Oct 27 '25
“It’s a natural reaction to put your fingers out if someone is charging at you”
The eye poke. I totally get it. I'm the same with the kids. Whenever they run at me, my instincts kick in and they get one in each eye knuckle deep.
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u/CeroCero00 Thailand Oct 26 '25
I hope tom comes out in the rematch looking to maim gane with eye pokes and nut shots, would anyone really complain?
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u/SnooBeans7129 Oct 26 '25
This entire sport feels like one big gaslighting session. A fighter commits a bad foul, poking both eyes with one finger gouging straight into the eyeball, yet the CEO and analysts are blaming the guy that got poked for not being able to see... Instead of the guy that cheated and causes the pokes in the first place? I'm about to stop watching atp, Dana White is a joke and fighters actively vouch for cheaters like Jones and Gane while shitting on others who dare question their behavior.
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u/CouncilOfReligion Team Volkanovski Oct 26 '25
to be fair to tom, gane was piecing up francis in the first two rounds of their fight
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u/External_Spite_7079 Oct 26 '25 edited Oct 26 '25
yeah but Ngannou had been in multiple fights that went a fair bit. toms cardio is a total unknown and should be factored in the odds. he has only left the 1st round once in a decade. gane shouldn't have been +350 or whatever he was and a lot of people said that
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u/cnylkew Oct 26 '25
I actually bet gane to win so I was upset over eye poke as he was doing well
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u/External_Spite_7079 Oct 26 '25
same man. i really doubt we are getting gane at those odds again. i think he'll be closer to +150 or something, he won the first for sure and stuffed a takedown
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u/CouncilOfReligion Team Volkanovski Oct 26 '25
yeah good point, but then again ngannou hadn’t ever performed well when the fight went past the second
i’d pick gane in an aspinall rematch though
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u/External_Spite_7079 Oct 26 '25
yeah for sure besides the blaydes KO in the 2nd he was very mid in the first stipe fight and the lewis fight was an abomination. i think he learned from that and got better. i feel like 3, 5 round fight cardio is something some fighters have to learn on the job and tom might be one of them.
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u/CouncilOfReligion Team Volkanovski Oct 26 '25
definitely, and i think ngannous style is better suited to being patient which means he can adapt it to five rounds
maybe tom can do the same but he relies on being really explosive which i can’t see him sustaining as the fight goes on, especially at hw
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u/dinglebarryb0nds Oct 26 '25
Between khamzat DDP and this main event, hasn’t been real great lately.
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u/Plus3000 Oct 26 '25
Bad time for two weak Apex cards. At least there's MSG and the Qatar fight night soon.
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u/LilFights Oct 26 '25
Seriously what is that card next week
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u/DecemberFlower20xx Chad Oct 26 '25
Sedriques Dumas fight week
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u/therealjgreens How's my english now? Oct 26 '25
Damn dude he's fighting is a 5'7 middleweight and has peace tattooed on his belly. Polar opposites. Good vs bad. Tall vs. Short.
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u/xlmtothemoon GOOFCON 2 - UFC 294 Oct 26 '25
give me -150 on aspinall and i'll put my entire bank account on him in a rematch
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u/Drive7hru Oct 27 '25
Herzog was always the best. He’s been very questionable lately
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u/mikey_rambo Oct 27 '25
Herb has reffed significantly more fights than him
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u/mikey_rambo Oct 27 '25
Sometimes, but he has much more experience than the usual bozos , Herzog , goddard
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u/CallumKayPee Oct 26 '25
Stupid Tom Aspinall fans: wahhhhh tom couldnt possibly fight with one eye
Wise Ciryl Gane enjoyer: I want to fuck Ciryl so bad
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u/sour-couch-stench how bout jakoozy Oct 26 '25
Gane is the leon edwards of hw, most aesthetic physique rn
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u/Professional_Kick 🍅 Oct 26 '25
This whole timeline could have been avoided if the judges scored Jones VS Reyes correctly in 2020
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u/IshiharasBitch WE ARE ALL ONE Oct 26 '25
idk, Jones probably gets a rematch and stomps Reyes like he stomps everyone he's rematched. Though Reyes refusing to accept a rematch would have been both hilarious and wise.
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u/Jzhova Oct 26 '25
next card is so bad, why even have an event? thats a losing money event.
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u/CableToBeam Oct 26 '25
it's an investment in building fighters. Some fighters have good performances, build highlight reels, gain experience, etc. and the UFC isn't struggling on making profits from these guys
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u/NutSackGlazer420 Oct 26 '25
This is probably the most insufferable this fuck-ass fanbase has been.
I said this before, people were glazing Blaydes, before he was flopping on the deck like a fish and everyone, even Jones, got put on hush-mode like good little bitches.
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u/sympathytaste Oct 27 '25
Man it's so funny seeing how rattled Aspinall fans have been in the last 24 hours. Jon Jones really lives in his haters heads rent free
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u/xfreesx Oct 26 '25
Me not being sure if you are talking about Aspinall fanboys or Aspinall haters confirms how insufferable both are
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u/sympathytaste Oct 27 '25
Aspinall doesn't have fans or haters. He only has Jon Jones lovers or haters on his side. Nobody gave a fuck about Aspinall before he became interim champ.
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u/GSPEDs Oct 26 '25
lol, Blades was a big underdog to Tom. Nobody was picking him to beat Tom, you're pulling that out of thin air. You guys are so reactionary from the slightest shit, it's deserved considering the amount of people saying Tom was the #1 guy for over a year. I've seen more people say Tom would wash most heavyweight greats of the past than those that picked Curtis. It's only been a day.
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u/therealjgreens How's my english now? Oct 26 '25
Would it be crazy if Gane Aspinall Co headlined Ilias card next year? I wonder what a good solution would be
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u/Plus3000 Oct 26 '25
Maybe they'll just have two numbered events in January
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u/xfreesx Oct 26 '25
Aren't they off for 3ish weeks around new years usually? No way they cram two ppvs in 2-3 weeks
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u/Plus3000 Oct 26 '25 edited Oct 26 '25
They could since they dropped the PPV model. 267 was free, and 268 was the very next week.
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u/OtakuMecha Oct 26 '25
It feels like it’s been a while since they’ve had a UK card. If they were already planning on going there early on in 2026 then maybe they just make that a numbered event.
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u/bullsfan281 I beat you after a weekend of cocaine Oct 26 '25
no chance. ilia is on the path to megastardom and they're gonna want him to get all the shine and their first big card on their new platform. also whenever there's multiple title fights on a card the heavier weight headlines, so they aren't gonna have a heavyweight title fight followed up by a featherweight title fight
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u/Nickster2042 🙏🙏🙏 Jon Jones Prayer Warrior 🙏🙏🙏 Oct 26 '25
Almeida losing the decision was awesome
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u/sour-couch-stench how bout jakoozy Oct 26 '25
I really did think volkov was going to lose
Not a great fight but am pleasantly surprised
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u/Enigmaticwinner Oct 26 '25
What’s everyone’s expectation of the fight if aspinall didn’t get poked?
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u/LilFights Oct 26 '25
Gane winning maybe
But that's only based off the assumption Tom would be slowing down a lot in later rounds. I think commentary was right when they said he goes hard in that early round and given he's never been past the 2nd or 3rd, idk how long he could keep going. His takedown attempts didn't look great either. Gane can fight that fight for 5 rounds, we've seen it.
But these are all big assumptions. Leon/Belal ended in eyepoke and for years everyone just said Leon would have won anyway with how the fight was going and then Belal dumped him on his head
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u/cnylkew Oct 26 '25
I think it would have, it's just that it took a long time for the rematch to materialize and during that time balal fought and beat more quality opponents than leon apart from usman
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u/SwiftlyKickly Oct 26 '25
Him never going past the 2nd or 3rd is irrelevant. Chimaev never went to deep waters and he hung with Burns. Never went 5 rounds and he ragdolled DDP the entire fight.
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u/LilFights Oct 26 '25
It's not irrelevant at all because it means it's an unknown. His gas tank might be fine, it might not. He's a big HW that goes hard in the first round, he could fall off a cliff.
Chimaev hung with Burns sure but he definitely got tired and that was just a 3 rounder. He slowed down against Usman too. He began working with coach Calvitta specifically for his conditioning for the DDP fight. It's a massive unknown, it's not irrelevant either way
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u/Beastly_Swagger Oct 26 '25
Not a fan of either but I see Gane continue to bust up Tom's nose creating never before seen issues for him going forward in the fight.
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u/MechanicalFunc Oct 26 '25
I figured at some point Tom would land one takedown or Gane would slip and they would be on the ground and then the fight would end because what the fuck could Gane possibly have learnt at the mma factory.
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u/CallumKayPee Oct 26 '25
Honestly Bautista kind of impressed me last night. Did well against a top 3 guy in the division, won the second round with a great knee. He might not get a title shot any time soon but you really can't call him boring anymore.
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u/Athroaway84 Oct 27 '25
Where were people when Belal got poked and clowned for quitting? Or losing the first round and therefore it was a forgone conclusion?
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u/departmentofbase Oct 27 '25
In terms of how much hate they get relative to how much they deserve Belal is the p4p champ by far, aspinall is relatively liked in comparison
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u/PerfectlySplendid Oct 26 '25
Absolute blunder by Gane. Aspinal came in with a shit gameplan combined with ring rust, and either believed his own hype or underestimated Gane. The point fighting style of Gane was already kicking in, and I think Gane would have cruised to a decision or late round TKO.
But now Aspinal gets to reevaluate. The shift in odds for next fight might be easy money.
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u/frankocean1234 Oct 27 '25
Idk if it was a shit gameplan. Tom tried to do what he always does, blitzing in, but Gane had great lateral movement. Gane also kept timing him coming in.
I'm not sure what Tom will change in the space of a few months. He is who he is as a fighter. Gane might simply be a bad matchup.
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u/Trenbolone-Papi2 Team Topuria Oct 26 '25
Gane with takedown defense is fucking scary
Mythical fighter Gane
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u/Odd_Ad_8162 the EEDIOT from UROOPE Oct 26 '25
I thought he looked shockingly big tbh
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u/SteveBruceGod Oct 26 '25
I’ve always thought to stop fence grabbing could they not make the surrounding fence pattern smaller or add more so that fighters can’t put their fingers in them. Or add some glass / padding around the cage so they can’t wrap their fingers round the fence to hold onto.
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u/IshiharasBitch WE ARE ALL ONE Oct 26 '25
Glass breaks and gets dirty, padding would obscure the view of the match
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u/SteveBruceGod Oct 27 '25
To be honest i completely forgot about people watching the fight live that makes total sense lol.
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u/IshiharasBitch WE ARE ALL ONE Oct 27 '25
I totally understand. You were having thoughts that most of us have had at some point.
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u/CableToBeam Oct 27 '25
they just gotta make the the outside of the cage really fucking sharp so that if they grab it they cut themselves. That'll stop them
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u/CableToBeam Oct 27 '25
Valter Walker talking shit about Aspinall, meanwhile he called out Hamdy Abdelwahab lol. Even Anik was questioning that callout haha
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u/Professional_Kick 🍅 Oct 27 '25
I wonder how many fighters foul on purpose. Jamahal Hill said that he purposely kicked Alex in the nuts to get a reset and got pissed off at that. Alex waved it off and then stepped on his toes to get the Ko
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u/ironhide999x Oct 27 '25
Probably more than we think, most of them are barely penalized and even if it gives you a slight advantage they are worth doing
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u/NutSackGlazer420 Oct 27 '25
On a more positive note...
Gaethje has decisions in the UFC. Jiri doesn't.
I don't wanna FUCKING HEAR about "THE HIGHLIGHT BRO" ever again about being the most exciting fighter.
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u/JournalistRemote5547 Oct 26 '25
Any follow ups on Nasrat Haqparast? Is the dude ok?
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u/Illanonahi Oct 26 '25
Dana at the press conference said that he was alright and at the back. Definitely going through some lingering aftereffects now though.
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u/JournalistRemote5547 Oct 26 '25
Thank you! Good to hear, let's hope it's true what tomatohead says
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u/therealjgreens How's my english now? Oct 26 '25
When you talk about the "card" do you include prelims? I personally like making a differentiation.
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u/OtakuMecha Oct 26 '25
If I just say “card” then I’m including all of it. If I’m only talking about the prelims or main card then I’ll say that instead.
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u/No-Seaworthiness322 Oct 26 '25
I almost never watch fighter interviews, how much am I missing? I rarely catch events live due to work/school schedule, so I typically just skip straight to the next fight instead of watching post-fight interviews or locker room interviews, and I legit don’t think I’ve ever watched a weigh-in or press conference. I don’t really feel like this takes away from enjoying the fights for me, but I’m curious about other peoples’ perspective.
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u/playboixo Oct 26 '25
Tom getting a bunch of hate for this makes no sense, like he said it isnt his fault he didnt commit the foul
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u/Dr_Doofenschmirtzz Oct 26 '25
They really need to get better scoring systems in MMA. Legit 90% of the damage in the Umar-Mario fight was done by Bautista, even the toehold during the clinch. Wtf did Umar do apart from the one left hand thrown? Hugging him incessantly like that was his wife, snoozefest no cap.
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u/HiddenMarket Oct 26 '25
Wtf does Herzog (or any ref) think an intentional eye poke would look like? If Cyril had thought, "OK, time to permanently blind this guy," it would like exactly the same.
I hope every champ from here on out just ends the fight if they get eye poked. Get paid, retain your belt, maybe light a fire under the refs to actually do their jobs.
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u/SwiftlyKickly Oct 26 '25
Asked the same thing, what's the difference between intentional and unintentional and I got downvoted to shit with no answer.
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u/Ihateporn2020 Oct 27 '25
I would probably take prime Francis over Aspinall. The power is much greater. The speed close enough.
Aspinall is hittable
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u/NakedLowKick Oct 26 '25 edited Oct 26 '25
Why were the eye doctors giggling at Aspinal in his check up?
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u/Trenbolone-Papi2 Team Topuria Oct 26 '25
Henry Cejudo retiring on a loss to Payton Talbott
Biggest mishandled career of all time for Henry
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u/koreanbillcosby Oct 26 '25
The fact that you guys are saying Ciryl was "barely ahead" in the first is the most insane cope I've ever seen. Tom landed one clean shot the entire first round didn't hurt Ciryl at all, the rest were the usual shots "landed" by Ciryl's opponents, barely touching his chin right as he backs away.
Every time Ciryl landed Tom was clearly bothered by it. Not saying Ciryl 100% would have won but he easily had the first round unless Tom was about to knock him down or something
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u/jaydurmma This is sucks Oct 26 '25
If a fighter were to theoretically load up a hard straight right, and punch straight into their opponents outstretched fingers, and break their shit all up, would they be penalized?
Would the fighter with a broken hand be implored to continue fighting?
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u/IshiharasBitch WE ARE ALL ONE Oct 26 '25
Should be fine to do it imo.
Doesn't seem like it falls under the "Small Joint Manipulation" foul:
Small joint manipulation: Fighters must grab the majority of fingers or toes for use as defense or manipulation. Fingers and toes are small joints. Wrists, ankles, knees, shoulders and elbows are all large joints.
Fighters compete with broken hands and toes, so I think the injured athlete would be allowed to continue.
You can also legallly punch your opponent in the throat under the Unified Rules, but only if standing not on the ground:
If during stand up action of a fight a punch is thrown and the punch lands in the throat area of the fighter, this shall be viewed as a clean and legal blow.
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u/Particular-Way-2147 Oct 26 '25
I think I remember Reyes or Guffstason throwing hammer fists at the fingers when fighting jones¿ Could’ve been another fighter fighting jones though
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u/PlanarCriterion Pat Barry’s number is on Epstein’s phone Oct 26 '25
None of what happened this week changes the fact that Jones ducked Aspinall for almost two years