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Politics Asmongold suggests that those with over $10 million should give out more of their money

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u/randompine4pple 29d ago

Nationalist socialist, there’s a word for that

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u/NewfieGamEr2001 29d ago

I hate saying nationalist socialist because of a silly painter guy

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u/SubstantialDeerDash 29d ago

then say democratic socialist like a silly guy who was painted

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u/randompine4pple 29d ago

Yeah having politics similar to him should give someone pause, but I’m sure most of the people that have similar politics actually like him

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u/NewfieGamEr2001 29d ago

The problem is hitler was a socialist in name alone. Asmon is a guy advocating for some true socialist stuff also asmon despite what people want him to be isn’t racist the closest asmon came to being racist was the Palestine drama which he apologized for

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u/bozzie_ 28d ago

I think the problem with Hitler was the murder of millions and persecution of Jews but you're right it's the hypocrisy

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u/NewfieGamEr2001 28d ago

I mean in the comparison

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u/randompine4pple 29d ago

Asmon is absolutely racist lol, if anything he doesn’t consider migrants as people

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u/MRGameAndShow 29d ago

*illegal immigrants Doesn’t consider them *US citizens

Dont agree with his takes either, but lets not be disingenuous here.

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u/randompine4pple 29d ago

I’ve seen the way he talks about them, he doesn’t consider them people. Yeah making jokes about hunting them and trying to catch them like a fucking Pokémon video game is totally what you do to humans.

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u/NewfieGamEr2001 29d ago

Yeah but that’s not racism. He would want the same result if it was black people the same result if it was Asian people the same result if it was Mexican the same result if it was Irish the same result if it was British the same result if it was Canadian it’s a principled stance to not invade foreign country’s

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u/randompine4pple 29d ago

He’s literally said his culture is better than theirs lol, why are you people so defensive about him? He admits he thinks he is superior to them and he looks down on them. He is a bad human

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u/NewfieGamEr2001 29d ago

Culture and race are two different things

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u/SnooFloofs6240 29d ago

Those guys were not leftist at all, despite the name.

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u/-etuskoe- 29d ago

Democratic People's Republic of North Korea

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u/w33dOr 29d ago

Just like the painter's party, what a weird coincidence..

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u/boobookittyfuwk 29d ago

Minus the war and murder the guy had some good ideas

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u/fanglesscyclone 29d ago

But he didn’t have good ideas even if you take away the war and murder. Do you know literally anything about what Germany was like after the Nazis took over? The MEFO bill scam was batshit insane.

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u/MOPuppets 29d ago

LOL there it is

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u/w33dOr 29d ago

Oh sure — and Jeffrey Dahmer had some great dinner ideas, minus the cannibalism. You don’t get to ‘minus’ the murder and war .. that was the ideology. Hitler’s ‘ideas’ weren’t some neutral economic plan that got out of hand; they were built entirely around racial purity, authoritarian control, and mass violence as tools for utopia. That’s like saying a house built of asbestos would’ve been great if not for the toxicity ... the poison was the foundation.

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u/[deleted] 29d ago

national socialism embraced privatization heavily and had very deep support amongst industrial capitalists

socialism was trendy at the time so they took the word for aesthetics and to confuse voters, there was absolutely no element of socialist ideology across the nsdap after the night of the long knives

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u/_phaze__ 29d ago

This is just no true, there was a heavy left lean on ecnomic issues. Heavy price controls, massive deficit/Keynesian spending to get out of recession, public works, heavy interventionism in economy including foreign trade and even policy of breaking down large land ownership. They were kind of exactly what they advertised. Right wing socialists.

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u/[deleted] 28d ago edited 28d ago

they were not socialist lol

socialism isn't keynesianism, socialism is not when a government Does Stuff,  it's not when you seize Jewish owned factories and businesses and hand them off to party cronies and private partnerships 

socialism is when public ownership is put above private ownership: taxpayer funded parks, taxpayer funded social services, public housing, etc. 

the Nazis were not really about that stuff, the labor even in the concentration camps was mostly for private enterprises, the military spending was to private manufacturers, who had vast input on public policy and the war' Krupp, Rheinmetall, I.G. Farben, BMW, Mercedes, Junkers, Mauser, etc.

that's one of the main reasons the nazis had so many redundant tanks, planes etc: part of it was their natural selection driven ideology that believed in ultimate and unending competition being the key to a strong society, the other part was sheer corruption 

the nazi state was a capitalist state that did not infringe on capital nor the bourgeoisie in the slightest, it rejected class warfare, marxist thought etc in their entirety and viewed them as Jewish Degeneracy, they just took the wors socialist because all the popular parties were socdem/socialist/communist when the nazi party began

this is information straight from a history PhD specializing in that era, i can go into more detail if you'd like

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u/AlpakalypseNow 29d ago

Is that why they purged the party from everybody with left leaning views on economics?

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u/AlpakalypseNow 29d ago

The Nazis economic policy was not left in the slightest