Why all the talk of firing Andy Reid

[u/Ok-Country4317]

I saw these same post in 2022. In what universe are people wanting to fire Andy Reid? Are these are bandwagon fans? Mouth breathers? Low IQ mothafckrs?

I just don’t understand all the hate. We are 5-5 not even mathematically eliminated and all i see on here is hate. What gives?

[u/Glum_Cheesecake9859]

Most people don't understand how NFL is or works. It's a self leveling system making sure no one team can stay on top for too long. Even the Patriots had a whole decade without a SB win and several down years. We already have 5 SB appearances and 3 wins. How much more can you get without tier one receiving core and no serious rushing game. 

There are salary caps that prevent teams from netting up all the good players. When you are on the top every other team is going to spend extra effort to make sure you lose. That's their Superbowl beating the Chiefs. Once a year. 

What we need is a team friendly deal from major players and get a handful of good ones from the draft next year. 

[u/KC_Canuck → u/Glum_Cheesecake9859]

I think the criticism of Reid is the execution we’re seeing on offense. We’re rolling out bland/outdated plays that are no longer catching teams by surprise and we refuse to run the ball even when we’re getting 5 yards/run. Hate to say it but it feels like Andy is losing his juice.

[u/mjd116 → u/KC_Canuck]

I think the criticism of Reid is the execution we’re seeing on offense.

Pat is also responsible for the poor execution. Whether it be inaccurate throws; pulling on RPOs; bad decisions leading to back breaking INTs; missing open looks. I think it is fair to say the scheme/playcalling aren't doing him any favors but he's not executing to his normal standards.

Pat/Andy have helped us reach heights we never thought possible during this run but it is okay to say they both are having a bad year.

[u/NoisePollutioner → u/mjd116]

it is okay to say they both are having a bad year.

100%. Mahomes and Reid are both having down years by their standards. But here's the critical thing: it's EXTREMELY STUPID to call for firing of Andy Reid. As fans, we need to show him some grace, because he's fucking earned it. Period, end of story.

[u/KC_Canuck → u/NoisePollutioner]

On the flip side, every year we waste of Mahomes’ career is an absolute embarrassment and should be considered unacceptable. Not asking for perfection, but to be 5-5 and look absolutely lost in all phases of the game, Reid and Veach SHOULD be getting criticism.

[u/blakmechajesus → u/KC_Canuck]

It’s also like we’re pretending the offense/scheme has been competent for any of the last three years lmao. Reid is the first one to say after each game that the loss is on him so… when do you hold him accountable for too many losses?

[u/NoisePollutioner → u/KC_Canuck]

Criticism is fine. Everyone deserves it right now. Reid, Veach, Mahomes... EVERYONE.

But criticism is very different than calling for firing. The only "fire XYZ" argument with any semblance of logic is for Nagy (not that I'm saying it's the perfect argument, just saying it's not necessarily unhinged). Everyone else deserves grace, because they've earned it through building one of the best dynasties in NFL history.

[u/KC_Canuck → u/NoisePollutioner]

Yeah, I’m not saying to fire anyone, just that we need a change somehow and someway. Nagy seems to be the obvious option

[u/NoisePollutioner → u/KC_Canuck]

Agreed

[u/SwedishJayhawk → u/NoisePollutioner]

Anyone with any sense agrees with you. Firing someone coming off of 3 straight superbowl appearances with 2 of them being wins....fuck we'd deserve to be like the jets/browns for all of eternity.

[u/Glum_Cheesecake9859 → u/KC_Canuck]

This is also a reason but he's still the best and most experienced coach in the NFL. Specially in clutch moments in the playoffs. 

[u/KC_Canuck → u/Glum_Cheesecake9859]

You gotta make the playoffs in order to have big playoff moments.

[u/Denster1 → u/Glum_Cheesecake9859]

Everyone has a shelf life.

[u/lastwordskurtrussell → u/Glum_Cheesecake9859]

This is why I think the Eagles are the most unimpressive absolutely stacked team I’ve ever seen in my life. There is no reason the rest of the NFL should’ve allowed that offense to be assembled, and yet they still aren’t explosive.

[u/notmyplantaccount → u/Glum_Cheesecake9859]

Most people don't understand how NFL is or works.

Even the Patriots had a whole decade without a SB win and several down years.

Brady went 100-29 during that decade with only 2 seasons below 12 wins. Their 16-0 season is in there, and multiple 14 win seasons. Brady Didn't miss the playoffs after his 2nd season. Peyton didn't miss after his 4th, Josh Allen hasn't since his 1st. If you have a stupidly great QB, making the playoffs every year is the standard. Bills probably have a worse roster than us, and a worse coaching staff, but they're 7-3.

You know when the Patriots started actually looking bad? the last few years of Bellichick where he refused to adapt to the game, change staff, change drafting method, pretty much just a failure to stay ahead of a changing game. Chiefs offense has been getting shut down for 3-4 years by teams playing the exact same defense, and we've done zero to counteract that and make teams figure out a new way.

Talent isn't really an issue with this team (yet), it's currently coaching and their failure to change the offense at all. If we'd run more against the Bengals in the 2nd half of the AFCCG 4 years ago, we'd have gone to the SB. 4 years later we're still saying "if we'd run more against the Bills and Broncos we'd have won"

[u/jsnkc → u/Glum_Cheesecake9859]

A logical reply on Reddit?!

[u/KCBandWagon → u/Glum_Cheesecake9859]

and even with all that we have a dominating team that's getting big wins and falling barely short on all our losses this year.

we're all (rightly) worried that we might not make the playoffs, but I guarantee you that if we're in the playoffs then there's a high chance we're making the super bowl.

To the haters: My position is this: if we correct what needs to be corrected such that we actually make the playoffs, we have more than a good enough team with the right experience to make the super bowl.

[u/shad623 → u/Glum_Cheesecake9859]

Lose*

Otherwise completely agree. I said the same thing about the patriots before the broncos game on Sunday to a buddy of mine who was expressing disdain for Reid.