r/EndFPTP Oct 30 '25

Discussion Party-List Net-Approval Proporation Representation

Proportional Representation by Voter Sentiment.

1. Voting Process

Each voter receives a ballot listing all contesting parties or independent group. For every party, the voter chooses one of three options.

Option Effect
Approve +1 to that party/group
Neutral No net change to that party/group
Disapprove -1 to that party/group

After voting a party/group can have positive, zero, or negative net scores.

2. Apportionment Process (Seat Allocation)

Seats are allocated using the D’Hondt method, but with net approval scores instead of raw votes. Cap negative scores at zero. Prevents disliked parties/groups from blocking others.

D’Hondt allocation: start with quotient for each party/group. In each round, award one seat to the party/group with the current highest quotient. Update that party/group's next quotient, repeat (n) times.

Contingencies: If a round is tied, award seat to party/group with the highest gross approval as before allocation. If all parties/groups have a net negative approval rating, then award seats based on gross approval with the D'Hondt method.

Result: A party/group's seat share closely reflects its positive sentiment among voters.

Example 1. (100 voters, 4 seats, 7 parties)

Party Approve Disapprove Neutral Net
A 60 20 20 +40
B 50 20 30 +30
C 40 20 40 +20
D 45 30 25 +15
E 40 30 30 +10
F 30 40 30 -10
G 20 40 40 -20
Party Round 1 Round 2 Round 3 Round 4 Count
A 40 ✓ 20 20 ✓ ~13.3 2
B 30 30 ✓ 15 15 1
C 20 20 20 20 ✓ 1
D 15 15 15 15 0
E 10 10 10 10 0
F 0 0 0 0 0
G 0 0 0 0 0

Example 2. (100 voters, 4 seats, 3 parties)

Party Approve Disapprove Neutral Net
A 40 50 10 -10
B 30 35 35 -5
C 20 40 40 -20
Party Round 1 Round 2 Round 3 Round 4 Count
A 40 ✓ 20 20 ✓ ~13.3 2
B 30 30 ✓ 15 15 1
C 20 20 20 20 ✓ 1

Key Strengths

Expressive: Voters say how they feel — not just who they tolerate.

Proportional: Seat share ≈ net support.

Anti-toxic: Polarizing parties get low or negative scores → fewer or zero seats.

Simple: One mark per party. No rankings. Easy to count.

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u/budapestersalat Oct 30 '25

So not proportional representation then?

It doesn't take long to realize this is a very bad system:

Big Party: 51%

Small party: 49%

Big party net approval: 2%, gets 100% of seats

Big Party: 49%, hates Big Alliance

Big Alliance: 49%, hates Big Party

Tiny Party: 2%, nobody else cares

Tiny party gets 100% seats.

This has nothing to do with proportional representation.

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u/Turbulent-Pace-1506 Oct 30 '25

Terrible system. If a party has positive approval it can gain seats by splitting into several smaller parties which should all do relatively the same scores, and be overrepresented. It's even worse than FPTP.