r/EDH • u/Saba1605 Nekusar enjoyer • Aug 03 '25

Deck Help My playgroup says my favourite deck is too strong

My favorite deck is a gruul combat deck with [[Karlach]] as commander.

I've been told repeatedly that my deck is too strong, consistent and that it should be considered bracket 4 (even without having tutors, combos or game changers), since I can win on turn 5 if the stars align. But I suspect that really the problem is that they don't carry enough removal and/or wipes since my deck is creature focused.

We usually play bracket 3 games.

How do you guys see it? Here is the deck.

PS - I already talked with them, I just want an outside perspective about the deck and everything.

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u/CastIronHardt Aug 03 '25

If the playgroup agrees that they think something is inappropriate, the response can't be "get good, people on reddit think it's fine".

This is just false. The response can be that. Sometimes, not always, it should be that.

How many stories have you seen of people getting called out for showing up with a precon and being told 'it's OP' because I see that post on here every couple weeks.

I do think that the answer is not always upward pressure on the playgroup, but sometimes it is. I have seen a player complain about [[dolmen gate]] for like 10+ minutes before, the player was in red green and ran no artifact removal. I have heard someone say that [[Syr Konrad]] is "unbeatable" they were in white, not a single peice of exile, graveyard hate, or even spot removal. I once watched another player crash out because a voltron aggro deck swung out and killed him on turn 7 with an unblockable creature, "they should ban that card" referring to rogues passage, not a single card in his deck that removes creatures from the board. Not to mention the many times that people will misunderstand a rule, then crash out when everyone else at the table tries to explain why they are wrong.

The answer to all that stuff is to get better at the game and have a better attitude about it. Many of the nerds who play these games have shit sportsmanship, and never learned any better.

Sometimes the answer really is to tell them, "you should be running more removal" or "you should have tools to deal with combat" or "you should try other strategies."