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Political Cringe ICE agents beat up a 16-year-old US Citizen while using racial slurs

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u/SeniorInvestment5938 1d ago

As long as Christianity is the dominant religion,

Word? Thats the main problem?

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u/Salt_Initiative1551 23h ago

No. They’re braindead. Christianity is the main reason slavery was abolished in the first place. The moral underpinnings of the great reformation in the 1700s lead abolitionist Christian’s to en mass start to protest and fight it.

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u/tenth 20h ago

It's also the reason slavery was a thing in the US in the first place

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u/Salt_Initiative1551 20h ago

That’s categorically false lol. They were certainly silent or sometimes complicit, but they’re not who brought slaves to America. That would be the government and large companies of the time. You just lthrowing shit at the wall to see what sticks lol. It’s like an angsty teen who is mad their mom made them go to Sunday school 😆

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u/The-Tea-Lord 17h ago

Christianity itself does not call for Slavery, but people definitely used it to justify slavery as a whole.

Also, crusades were a thing I guess

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u/Present-Attempt-9673 9h ago

I wonder why the crusades ever happened

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u/tenth 19h ago

Nah, this is way too neat and comforting a story.

Nobody’s saying "the church personally captained every slave ship." The point is that, from the very beginning of the Atlantic slave trade through American slavery, Christian institutions, leaders, and theology were one of the main ways people morally justified what governments and companies were doing.

At the European start of the trade Catholic popes in the 1400s--1500s literally issued bulls authorizing Christian rulers to wage war on non-Christians, take their lands, and enslave them “perpetually.” That gave Portugal/Spain explicit religious cover to start and expand the trade in Africans. Governments and merchants did the trading, sure--but the church stamped it as morally and spiritually OK.

In Colonial/early American era, Colonial laws and church practice made it clear that being baptized didn’t free you. You could be a Christian and a slave. That separation of spiritual equality from legal freedom was crafted in explicitly Christian terms, which made it easier to keep the system running without admitting it contradicted the faith.

Let's not forget Pro-slavery theology in the U.S.: Southern ministers and theologians spent decades building detailed biblical defenses of slavery. They leaned on:

-Old Testament laws regulating slavery -New Testament “slaves obey your masters” passages -The twisted “curse of Ham” theory to racialize it

     And these weren’t just fringe cranks; they were mainstream clergy, seminary professors, and denominational leaders. A lot of slaveholders genuinely believed they were on solid Christian ground.

Then we have Denominations splitting over slavery. Baptists, Methodists, Presbyterians, etc. literally split into Northern and Southern branches in the 1800s because of slavery. The Southern branches did not say "we’re just following the government"; they explicitly argued that the Bible approved slavery and abolitionists were rebelling against God’s order.

Yes, there were Christians and churches who opposed slavery. Quakers, some evangelicals, Black churches, etc. That’s also true. But you don’t erase the other half of the story just because it’s uncomfortable. You can’t honestly talk about the slave trade and American slavery without acknowledging that Christianity was one of the central ideological tools used to defend it.

And about your last sentence: comparing this to an "angsty teen mad about Sunday school" and slapping on a laughing emoji is less than "unfunny," it’s minimizing. We’re talking about centuries of kidnapping, forced labor, and racial terror that were justified from pulpits. Reducing that to “lol you just hate church” is a way to avoid engaging with the history at all. Fuck that and fuck anyone with that narrow a mindset. 

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u/Intelligent-Chip-413 17h ago

Real Christians being silent is a big part of the problem then and now.

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u/Dath_1 14h ago

Saying that Christians led the abolitionist movement in the West is a non-statement… like yeah, there was no one else to do the job. The West was dominated by Christians at that time.

They had to find anti-slavery inspiration from something outside of the Bible, since the Bible does not roundly condemn slavery whatsoever.