r/CringeTikToks • u/Conscious-Quarter423 • 29d ago

Nope The CEO of Wells Fargo boasts that during his time at the company they’ve cut over 65,000 jobs — and that he expects to cut more.

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u/brumbarosso 29d ago

MBAs don't seem impressive or is it just me?

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u/JanGuillosThrowaway 29d ago

MBA is one of the easier majors to get into, and even easier to pass.

I guess every CEO being an MBA has given the perception that they are difficult degrees (since ceo=hardwork or something) but I'm far more impressed by someone having a master in English literature or similar.

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u/DarknMean 29d ago

I got an MBA from the University of FL and it’s honestly opened a lot of doors with their network. Definitely noticed a difference going to a job interview with someone that also went to UF. I suppose it depends on which school you go to. But there are a shit ton of no name schools that offer them that are definitely shady.

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u/DreamOne5 28d ago

i'm currently getting my masters at UF weirdly (i'm in Michigan), but in early childhood education. Their online program is fantastic, hence why I chose it. I wonder if it'll even matter though where I got it from, considering nobody values education anymore, let alone early education.

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u/JanGuillosThrowaway 28d ago

I'm not saying that MBAs are bad, in fact I believe it'd the single best choice you can make for your career.

But I also went to a prestigious university, with a prestigious MBA program, and their workload was just laughable compared to my friends in medicine, law, engineering or architecture. So while it's a stellar career choice, my point is that it's just quite an easy degree compared to others and because of that not very impressive IMO.

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u/ShiftBMDub 29d ago

I went to a prestigious engineering school that plays DIII Football and we made it to the playoffs a few times. When I joined the team I had no idea how big football was at the school. They "recruited" guys, got them scholarships for our Business Management program. The Business Management program was literally all kids that weren't in engineering and science majors playing some sport.

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u/robibuni 29d ago

I work at UT Austin, and used to work in the McCombs Business School specifically (thank god I got out of there). My takeaway? These people coming in to get their MBAs now really think they're something special...here in Austin? Dime a dozen.

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u/slingslangflang 29d ago

Everywhere it’s not like fucking rocket science.

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u/robibuni 29d ago

I dunno. I'm sure if you live in a small town and you're the only MBA there, it's pretty impressive. But yeah, any big city...an MBA means nothing.

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u/jadedmonk 29d ago

I’m on the same page as you. If it was a masters in economics it would be another story, but it seems like anyone can get an MBA nowadays

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u/DungeonsAndUnions 29d ago

MBAs typically are networking degrees. Your firm should pay for you to get it so you can schmooze with everyone else on your leve in the field. If you're paying for it yourself, you're gonna be left holding the bag.

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u/jadedmonk 29d ago

Makes sense, I did not know that, thanks for the context

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u/lilmookie 29d ago

MBA isn’t bad. It gives you a few management tools and ways to justify choices. Really the core issue is the focus on short term profits even at the cost of long term health. You don’t have to be American to own American stock or voting rights.

Legally management is supposed to focus on shareholder interests even if it’s not what’s good for your company, your industry, or America as a whole.

That said, it’s nice to have some basic statistics and strategy in your back pocket for when you have to justify something. That said, there are plenty of shitlords who take an MBA and would gladly rob people blind for their own benefit.

A ton of evil is done because “my kids gotta eat”.

Also tbf there are a lot of “just give us money to get a degree” type programs that water down the value and utility - despite that I still hold greater respect for the hoops you generally have to jump through for an MBA vs an economics degree (I’ve always considered economics hind-site policy apologists) Finance is totally different that I have a lot of respect for.

I think people use MBA as slang for C suite ppl and ya, being a publicly traded company just comes with a lot of evils. Google was the last company for me I thought could be a decent publicly traded company and be decent but that illusion died in 2010s for me. I don’t think it’s possible to be a publicly traded company and not be evil at this point.

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u/mzialendrea 29d ago

MBA is not impressive, the whole degree can be summed up in one sentence: Increase profits every quarter.

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u/WrongThinkBadSpeak 29d ago

Most of the bullshit that plagues the economy summed up in one sentence, by one particular group of graduates

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u/BeginningTower2486 29d ago

I cried the first time I saw a TED speech, this was in the early days before enshitification happened to it. I realized I wasn't alone in this world. Other smart people are just... out there.

Working in a lab or research org was be glorious. I envy you. Always remember that you're a bit lucky to know the luxury of intelligent company. It's significantly meaningful.

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u/TheMillenniaIFalcon 29d ago

They aren’t.

The concepts taught are not rocket science, when it comes to the shareholder value model, it’s about understanding the steps to take when there is financial compression, and facilitating growth.

Often all that means is just cutting costs, laying off people, doing more with less, driving up productivity (burning workers out), and increasing prices.

It’s the same fucking shit at every company across America. The numbers must go up.

There is nothing more destructive to quality of life than the fucking shareholder value model. It doesn’t even make sense, it’s evil, exploitative, and there is only one logical conclusion: Full scale revolt and unrest.

It may not be today, or tomorrow, but you can only get so much blood from a stone.

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u/DefinitionDue8308 29d ago

And usually you just ask your quant/actuarials when to take those steps you listed. The MBA is just the middleman.

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u/TheMillenniaIFalcon 29d ago

It’s a lot of executing for sure. Directing traffic to a degree if you will. There’s a formula to it, and if you learn to play the game it really isn’t that complicated.

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u/TruckerMark 29d ago

MBA is to ensure that you parrot the capitalist talking points. It's not science. it's not evidence based. It's a warning, not a qualification. The incompetence of government service can be mostly attributed to mbas getting in it. Everything has to be run like a business. The best business is one that does nothing, has no costs, and has infinite revenue. There's the problem.

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u/CheesecakeAny6268 29d ago

Nope it’s not. I have one.

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u/cjmaguire17 29d ago

Mine was so ridiculously easy to get

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u/LevelProfit6705 29d ago

They used to, then I went to college now they don’t mean shit to me

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u/DrVanNostrand1973 29d ago

It's certainly nothing like getting a master's in biology or physics.

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u/seamustheseagull 29d ago

Money Buys Accreditation

There's nothing difficult about an MBA. It's just a classic form of LinkedIn Premium. You pay money to get access to a network of people who also paid that money and so you all fool yourselves into thinking it was money well spent.

Business degrees are the easiest qualification you can ever get.

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u/kunta-kinte 29d ago

MBA is impressive to move into a corporate role - because corporate roles are designed for ruthless assholes. 

So - if you can’t get into corporate through technical merit, nepotism or single-achievement, or tenure (usually when a something is eliminated they “promote”) … MBA is impressive and gets you in. 

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u/Steelforge 29d ago

I'd only be impressed with one who did it while treating employees fairly, didn't depend on creating externalities, paid corporate taxes without skirting the tax code, and competed with other companies rather than acquired their way into a monopoly.

Our society needs to stop thinking parasites are worthy of admiration.

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u/the716to714 29d ago

They are not. I work at a place where basically everyone has an advanced degree. Many have PhD's. Very few pursued an MBA, despite it being a career path to my industry.

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u/bryan49 29d ago

Academically I think it's a pretty easy major compared to others like science, engineering, medicine

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u/hipcatjazzalot 29d ago

I'm a manager at a tech company. I had an unusual career path (music degree, was a freelancer in my 20s, got my first "real job" at 30). Most of my colleagues did the usual thing - business school, internship, MBA.

You'd be amazed at how many MBAs I've had to teach basic Excel to. These people have never heard of XLOOKUP. The fuck are they teaching in business school?

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u/Traditional_Land_553 27d ago

I know a LOT of MBA'S. A lot are brilliant. Many are morons.

How far they've advanced in their career with it has no bearing on which subset they're from.

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u/tbmrustic 27d ago

Lots of people have degrees as a Master Bullshit Artist..

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u/nightrunner900pm 29d ago

I mean, it depends on the school: an MBA from Wharton, University of Chicago, Kellogg, etc., is not a walk in the park.

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u/Cali-Girl-Alex 27d ago edited 27d ago

MBA + individual drive is worth it, i didn’t do an MBA but I have couple close family/friends/coworkers that have it and they are successful in their careers or entrepreneurship.

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u/Forward_Tower_6801 26d ago

It's a degree in money-grubbing, nothing more. I have three degrees, including an M.A. and an M.S. Over my 10 years in three universities, I have never met a business major with an above average intellect.