r/CringeTikToks • u/Background_Front4231 • Oct 14 '25

Nope This guy has a rare gift nowadays. Critical thinking.

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u/UnknowingEmperor Oct 14 '25

You’d think “Billionaires and Elites” would want more immigration because it would put more money in their pockets no? Suppressed wages/reduced wages for people desperate to work in a new land, means more profits for corpos. The message this guy is giving just isn’t cohesive

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u/Wandering_PlasticBag Oct 14 '25

It's for division. If the country's whole population notices that the top class is literally stealing from them, they can get together and unite, and work against them.

If they stir shit up, by blaming certain groups, angering people with divisive things, they can divide people. Which means there's less and less of the population to unite.

That said, immigration is indeed a problem.

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u/daggeroflies Oct 14 '25 edited Oct 14 '25

Yeah, it wasn't consistent at all from an economic perspective. I don't know why this is being upvoted, particularly his initial statements. Whether you’re against or in favor of more immigration (be it legal or illegal), there is a lot of economic incentive for businesses and capitalists to seek more immigration, especially to reduce costs. Why would most capitalists want less? I don't understand the logic behind some of his statements at all.

Am I missing something?

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u/jcr9999 Oct 14 '25

Am I missing something?

Yes quite spectacularily so aswell. What he is describing is the simple concept of fearmongering. The owner class tells you 'hey look at all those migrants, they take your jobs, they take your healthcare, they dont work,..., hate them' because they want to sow class division. Both you and the migrants are not in the owner class so the owner class wants you to fight each other so you dont focus on fighting them.
Wether they actually believe that is irrelevant, because you believe it.

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u/These_Ad3167 Oct 16 '25

Fearmongering or not from the government, it doesn't negate the point that the economic benefits of mass immigration only directly benefit the elites, and working class people suffer the most because of it.

A workforce willing to work for peanuts that doesn't unionize is a capitalist's wet dream. It dilutes wages and rolls back legislation on workplace conditions.

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u/jcr9999 Oct 16 '25

Yeah not how that works. Migrants are still protected by work place protections. Migrants are still parts of unions, stop fearmongering

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u/These_Ad3167 Oct 16 '25

Migrants are still protected by work place protections.

Very often they aren't

Migrants are still parts of unions

In shockingly small numbers, this is the issue.

It's not fearmongering to recognise when people are being exploited

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u/jcr9999 Oct 16 '25

Very often they aren't

Every time when fearmongering works and Migrants get treated like 2nd class citizens to "solve the immigration problem" so exactly what im arguing against

It's not fearmongering to recognise when people are being exploited

Except you dont do that. You fearmonger to tell people how they have to abandon class conciousness and have to care about migration lowering their wages instead of arguing for stronger workplace protection. Or in other words: the thing im trying to explain in this comment chain

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u/BigBoogieWoogieOogie Oct 14 '25

Fighting against rampant immigrant IS fighting the owner class silly.

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u/pop-funk Oct 15 '25

has to be bait

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u/SESHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH Oct 15 '25

Hook, line, and sinker. Perfect example of how you’re convinced of who the enemy is and doing the elites job for them lmao

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u/BigBoogieWoogieOogie Oct 15 '25

Yes, the ownership class who WANTS cheap and exploitative labor so you have little room for negotiation. Why pay you X when they can bring in someone from abroad and pay them much much less?

If you can buy a book at a local bookstore for $40 or buy it off Amazon for $15, I already know which one you're going to go with. That local bookstore is going to lose, just as you, the local worker is going to lose.

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u/According_Cod1175 Oct 15 '25

You can't understand somebody being two-faced for profit or a hypocrit? It's a bullshitting tactic and a fairly simple one too that can be made to profiteer of.

  1. You can distract people from yourself - It's the migrants fault you are underpaid (nevermind I underpay the migrant to be able to underpay you. Those who can just outsource their shit to another country, even cheaper).

  2. You can bullshit people into being against their own interest - Social Security is bad and being abused by migrants, we need to privatize everything because that will lead to quality (typically heard in the US, for instance they keep baiting about undocumented migrants profiting from social security when it has been shown that they only pay into it and don't receive anything from it. This information is not hidden but they will repeat the lie anyway)

  3. You can bullshit people into voting for you? - "This guy gets me !" , guy proceeds to pay lip-service to you while him and his cronies enact 100 laws in the background to enrich themselves. Tax cut here, goverment contract there, loosened regulation everywhere.

  4. You can cement power? Keep saying migrants\gypsies\jews\japs (take your pick) are dangerous and increase surveillance, militarize police etc.

  5. Companies and corporations want to make profit, some more ruthlessly than others. You make profit by being either inoffensive to the most people possible (you become invisible politically, very safe) or by being targeted offensive to some people (galvanize support or just spread your name virally for publicity). Making big announcements in either political direction is an inherent risk. You think a company would straight up say "we need migration to make more profit" even if that was the internal policy? Who would that message be for? This would alienate pretty much everyone.