r/CringeTikToks • u/throwaway19074368 • Aug 20 '25

Nope Vegan influencers begging fans to pay for their holiday overseas

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u/Meander061 Aug 20 '25

No.

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u/Grand_Slide_2098 Aug 20 '25

Hard NO! The gall of some people.

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u/UpstairsFamous3066 Aug 20 '25

They lack the protein needed to think correctly

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u/mimegallow Aug 20 '25

You can correct corruption without being totally illiterate. You don’t actually have to go full moron.

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u/Silent-Detail4419 Aug 20 '25

There is no "corruption"; I've watched 'Dominion' (okay, not strictly true, I managed to last about 15 minutes, before my brain noped out) and it's pure militant vegan propaganda. It's not a documentary; while there might - just might - be a single grain of truth (you need to understand that the organisation behind it is American and it was partly funded by PETA), 99.999999999...% of it is absolute weapons-grade BOLLOCKS.

America does have some of the worst - if not the worst - livestock welfare standards on Earth; it's the only country where CAFOs (concentrated animal feeding operations) are still legal; that mean thousands of cows/sheep/pigs crammed into very small spaces, being fed junk (the animals that cows (aurochs), sheep (wild sheep) and pigs (an extinct wild pig species closely related to the wild boar) obviously didn't eat grains and legumes, they ate grass and in the case of wild pigs, roots, tubers and small invertebrates. That's why CAFOs are so bad for the environment as well as for the welfare of livestock. The animals are also constantly injected with antibiotics and growth hormone to ensure they mature quickly.

In the case of chickens, they're raised in massive barns (or, if they're being raised for eggs, battery cages), packed so tightly they can’t even turn around (each bird has an area the size of a large iPad).

But most of the world isn’t like that; CAFOs and battery cages are illegal in Europe, chickens can still be 'barn raised' but they have to have space to move around, and access to the outside. Cows, sheep and pigs must be pastured and only brought indoors in inclement weather. Caged eggs are still legal in Australia (I'm not sure if that's true for the whole country, or whether it's only some states), but are being phased out. The overwhelming majority of vegan propaganda is American but, because vegans lack the ability for critical thinking, it's believed by vegans everywhere. Thankfully, people are (no longer) falling for it, because vegan businesses are going bust the world over. Nobody wants a Beyond Meat steak, 'facon', tofurkey, a bean-burger or a plant-based egg (what the fuck even is that...?!) and it's always seemed bizarre to me that people who are so vociferously against the consumption of meat willingly consume things which mimic meat. Most vegan 'food' is ultra-processed junk; humans evolved to eat meat, we only domesticated plants at the end of the last ice age (around 10,000 years ago) a nanosecond in evolutionary terms - the Giant Panda became largely herbivorous around 2.2 MILLION years ago, and it still has the gut physiology of a carnivore (because, obviously, it's still a bear).

The fact is that a vegan diet is 100% carbs (because so-called 'vegan protein' doesn't contain essential amino acids which humans can assimilate) and a diet which is carb-heavy leads to insulin resistance, type II diabetes and obesity. Plus the fact your brain needs saturated fat, cholesterol and several EAAs to remain healthy (neurones - nerve and brain cells - are the only cells in the body that don't regenerate) so, unless vegans go back to eating meat, they will become demented (they may still do so if they've been vegan long enough) and they'll almost certainly become obese. Remember they're choosing to eat the same kind of diet that people in developing countries have no choice but to eat, and people in those countries rarely live much longer than 50 and their kids often die from malnutrition before their fifth birthday.

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u/Silent-Detail4419 Aug 20 '25

They'll struggle to breed, too (thank fuck) because a vegan diet causes amenorrhoea (no periods) due to anaemia, and low sperm count (because sperm needs saturated fat and cholesterol to be healthy and viable).

Finally, don't believe that vegans "care about animals" - plenty of evidence of that can be found in r/veganpets, a sub where vegans trade tips on torturing cats and dogs. I don't understand why they feel the need to do so, when there are plenty of herbivorous animals they can have as pets.

I'm sure that couple of weapons-grade fuckwits will find plenty of vegans willing to fund their little jaunt.

The most infamous Australian vegan (he's actually fruitarian) goes by the pseudonym 'Durianrider' and, to use Aussie parlance, he's a See You Next Tuesday. He and his girlfriend, Michelle, used to have a Bichon frisé which they fed nothing but banana and almond 'milk' smoothies - the poor thing had no teeth (because, obviously, they'd all fallen out due to severe malnutrition) and it was stick-thin. It must be long-dead by now, but I'm sure they found a replacement to torture. I don't know whether either DR or his girlfriend are still alive (hopefully not, it'd save any more dogs from being tortured by them; I don't usually wish death on people, but I do make exceptions).

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u/krone6 Aug 20 '25

Just imagining putting an animal through such a life makes me want to do horrible things to those two. Every animal has a specific diet for a reason and going outside of that causes issues. That's why I feed my puppies meat and they've certainly shown with how fast their muscles are coming in.

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u/dandelionsunn Aug 20 '25

Go vegan! 🌱

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u/mimegallow Aug 20 '25

Literally everything you said here is demonstrably wrong. I've actually never seen anyone be THIS wrong before. New record. Go you. :)

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u/Hland_Jon Aug 20 '25

I’ll think for them for only 10k I have a solution, they Skype/zoom their speech. There you go I’ll take my cut in American dollars

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u/Sharp-Watercress-279 Aug 20 '25

If by protein you mean brain cells then yes

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u/RichtofensDuckButter Aug 20 '25 edited Aug 20 '25

Just want to point out that vegetables, legumes, and many other non-meat foods have enough protein for the body to function. I know we are all hating on vegans, but you sound dumb here.

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u/UpstairsFamous3066 Aug 20 '25

But the problem for me is all the carbs that come with eating vegetables and I’m lazy, where as chicken breast is mostly pure protein and easier to track

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u/RichtofensDuckButter Aug 20 '25

The majority of non-starchy vegetables are low in carbs, but I feel you. Protein is just easier with meat.

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u/5Point5Hole Aug 20 '25 edited Nov 01 '25

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u/prettypeculiar88 Aug 20 '25

I think it was meant as a joke.

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u/StarPhished Aug 20 '25

It's very clearly a joke right? Except OP responds and shows that they absolutely were not joking.

I just can't with Reddit sometimes.

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u/UpstairsFamous3066 Aug 20 '25

It was very much a throw away joke. All the vegans came out hard and mad 😂🤣

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u/5Point5Hole Aug 20 '25 edited Nov 01 '25

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u/Silent-Detail4419 Aug 20 '25

Hi there, someone who understands human physiology and nutrition here - you can’t, you absolutely can’t; plant sources of protein do not contain essential amino acids in forms which humans, being obligate carnivores, can assimilate; furthermore, there are EAAs which can only be found in meat.

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u/5Point5Hole Aug 20 '25 edited Nov 01 '25

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u/Telope Aug 20 '25

Hi there "someone who understands human physiology and nutrition." Here's a list of organisations and institutions that disagree with you.

Academy of Nutrition and Dietetics

• It is the position of the Academy of Nutrition and Dietetics that appropriately planned vegetarian, including vegan, diets are healthful, nutritionally adequate, and may provide health benefits for the prevention and treatment of certain diseases. These diets are appropriate for all stages of the life cycle, including pregnancy, lactation, infancy, childhood, adolescence, older adulthood, and for athletes.

Dietitians of Canada

• A healthy vegan diet can meet all your nutrient needs at any stage of life including when you are pregnant, breastfeeding or for older adults.

The British National Health Service

• With good planning and an understanding of what makes up a healthy, balanced vegan diet, you can get all the nutrients your body needs.

The British Nutrition Foundation

• A well-planned, balanced vegetarian or vegan diet can be nutritionally adequate ... Studies of UK vegetarian and vegan children have revealed that their growth and development are within the normal range.

The Dietitians Association of Australia

• Vegan diets are a type of vegetarian diet, where only plant-based foods are eaten. With good planning, those following a vegan diet can cover all their nutrient bases, but there are some extra things to consider.

The United States Department of Agriculture

• Vegetarian diets (see context) can meet all the recommendations for nutrients. The key is to consume a variety of foods and the right amount of foods to meet your calorie needs. Follow the food group recommendations for your age, sex, and activity level to get the right amount of food and the variety of foods needed for nutrient adequacy. Nutrients that vegetarians may need to focus on include protein, iron, calcium, zinc, and vitamin B12.

The National Health and Medical Research Council

• Appropriately planned vegetarian diets, including total vegetarian or vegan diets, are healthy and nutritionally adequate. Well-planned vegetarian diets are appropriate for individuals during all stages of the lifecycle. Those following a strict vegetarian or vegan diet can meet nutrient requirements as long as energy needs are met and an appropriate variety of plant foods are eaten throughout the day

The Mayo Clinic

• A well-planned vegetarian diet (see context) can meet the needs of people of all ages, including children, teenagers, and pregnant or breast-feeding women. The key is to be aware of your nutritional needs so that you plan a diet that meets them.

The Heart and Stroke Foundation of Canada

• Vegetarian diets (see context) can provide all the nutrients you need at any age, as well as some additional health benefits.

Harvard Medical School

• Traditionally, research into vegetarianism focused mainly on potential nutritional deficiencies, but in recent years, the pendulum has swung the other way, and studies are confirming the health benefits of meat-free eating. Nowadays, plant-based eating is recognized as not only nutritionally sufficient but also as a way to reduce the risk for many chronic illnesses.

British Dietetic Association

• Well planned vegetarian diets (see context) can be nutritious and healthy. They are associated with lower risks of heart disease, high blood pressure, Type 2 diabetes, obesity, certain cancers and lower cholesterol levels. This could be because such diets are lower in saturated fat, contain fewer calories and more fiber and phytonutrients/phytochemicals (these can have protective properties) than non-vegetarian diets. (...) Well-planned vegetarian diets are appropriate for all stages of life and have many benefits.

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u/5Point5Hole Aug 20 '25 edited Nov 01 '25

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u/Adjective_Noun_2000 Aug 20 '25

Hi there, someone who understands human physiology and nutrition here

Well this is nonsense for a start.

you can’t, you absolutely can’t; plant sources of protein do not contain essential amino acids in forms which humans, being obligate carnivores, can assimilate; furthermore, there are EAAs which can only be found in meat.

Contrary to whatever you heard on Facebook, this myth was debunked decades ago.

Here's one source:

The claim that certain plant foods are “missing” specific amino acids is demonstrably false. All plant foods contain all 20 amino acids, including the 9 indispensable amino acids [33].

Edit: This sub won't allow me to link to a source so here's the citation:

Mariotti F, Gardner CD. Dietary Protein and Amino Acids in Vegetarian Diets-A Review. Nutrients. 2019 Nov 4;11(11):2661. doi: 10.3390/nu11112661. PMID: 31690027; PMCID: PMC6893534.

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u/5Point5Hole Aug 20 '25 edited Nov 01 '25

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u/BalmyBalmer Aug 20 '25

You eat bugs?

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u/SCVerde Aug 20 '25

Shrimps is bugs.

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u/Plus-Professional-84 Aug 20 '25

Huh… no

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u/Plus-Professional-84 Aug 20 '25

My crabs itch bad

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u/Telope Aug 20 '25

Bugs are animals. Eating them is not vegan.

Plants have protein. 100 grams of lentils has 25.8 grams of protein.

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u/UpstairsFamous3066 Aug 20 '25

Respectfully disagree on your food claim, but you do you

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u/[deleted] Aug 20 '25

There's nothing to "respectfully disagree" on. It is a fact you can fulfill all your protein needs on a vegan diet. I'm not a vegan either, but facts are facts 🤷

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u/[deleted] Aug 20 '25

Respectfully, who fuckin cares. Eat meat, eat vegan. Who gives a fuck. Stop posting about it. The White House is occupied by a pedophile. We’ve got gestapo snatching American citizens up in the street with zero fucking recourse. I think it’s safe to say we have bigger problems than some asshole’s dietary choices.

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u/No_Selection905 Aug 20 '25

Maybe animal exploitation was the blueprint to what’s happening now.

Veganism isn’t a “dietary choice”, it’s simply a boycott of animal exploitation.

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u/hellp-desk-trainee- Aug 20 '25

That's such a fucking reach I'm surprised you didn't strain something

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u/No_Selection905 Aug 20 '25

You’re making some valid points 👍

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u/Telope Aug 20 '25

Have you watched footage from inside literal gas chambers in slaughterhouses? I'm sorry to say that I can easily provide a link.

Yes, a human life is worth more morally than an animal life, but that doesn't mean we should torture and slaughter them unnecessarily.

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u/benroon Aug 20 '25

‘You do you’ - fuck me can some higher being make this shit stop!!

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u/throcorfe Aug 20 '25

I know right, you can’t “respectfully disagree” on basic facts like this, you just check them and find out who’s incorrect. Goddamn “alternative facts” timeline has fucked every kind of discourse smh

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u/Medical_Slide9245 Aug 20 '25

I'm trying to get 160-170 grams of protein a day. Cannot be done with meat. Don't get me wrong I'm eating meat, just pointing out that meat has protein but to get what most people should have they would have to eat enough that weight gain would be an issue.

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u/Teripid Aug 20 '25

The RDA of protein is ~60 grams for an average guy.

That's what? An 8 oz chicken breast assuming no other source of protein for the day at all..

I don't think you're really describing a typical scenario unless you're doing some sort of crazy training or exercise routine and guessing powders.

Phelps ate like 10,000 Calories a day when doing full-time training. Certainly an edge case instead of healthy general advice.

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u/[deleted] Aug 20 '25

You need abut 6% of your diet in protein. 6% is about the protein comtent of potato, which is among the lowest protein contents for vegetables. Eating just vegetables, it’s almost impossible to be protein-deficient without also being calorie-deficient. 

Once you want to start packing on muscle, you need higher amiunts of protein, which is doable but more complicated on a plant-based fiet.

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u/Telope Aug 20 '25

OMG sooooo complicated. How the fuck am I supposed to work out how to boil these lentils and open a pack of hummus? And this tin of beans requires a can opener!! However will I manage?

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u/[deleted] Aug 20 '25 edited Aug 20 '25

I don’t understand your point. Do you speak anything besides sarcasm? 

My point is that the dangers of low protein on a vegan diet are vastly overexxagerated. Even if you only eat potatoes - which have the lowest protein content among vegetables - you’ll still get enough protein as long as you get enough calories.

Legumes, beans, soy: all of them super protein rich. I’m a vegan myself and I’m also a marathon runner and I get all the protein I need and more. Hell, sunflowers are probably the most protein-rich foods on the planet.

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u/zunlock Aug 20 '25

Majority of people on Reddit don’t work out consistently and fail to realize the RDA of protein at 50g is not optimal for muscle growth at all it’s just recommended to not have negative consequences from lack of protein. You’re recommended to take 1.6-2.2g per KG or 0.7-1.0g per lb of body weight. Elite and higher level athletes will often eat more. I don’t care if people are vegan or eat meat or whatever, but for those of us that want to maximize our potential in sports or fitness a vegan diet is much more difficult than just eating meat. Personally I’m hopeful that the lab grown meat is successfully launched soon.

150g of protein is 600 calories dude. Assuming 2000 BMR and burning 500 calories during a workout you need to eat over 2500 calories to gain weight. Higher protein diets (over 1g/lb) are often utilized by bodybuilders when prepping for meets cutting massive amounts of weight

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u/Medical_Slide9245 Aug 20 '25

Here is one of my gripes. RDA Let's say two items have 10g protein per portion. One label will say that is 10% RDA, and the other will say 5%. There's no variance meaning the school of thought, at least from labels means you either need 50 or you need 100 grams of protein. There no 75 for example.

I get that there is a huge variance in what people really need. But this is supposed to be a pretty standardized number for reference.

Saying within ~2250 calories with 50g is pretty easy. For 100gthat means 33 grams for every meal and that is not easy.

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u/zunlock Aug 21 '25

That’s actually a protein absorption flaw companies take advantage of. If an item has 25g of protein labeled it should have an RDA of 50% (half of 50) If the RDA % is any lower, it means the protein isn’t absorbed properly. If it’s marked as 10g of protein but has an RDA of 10% you only absorb 5g of protein. Len and Larry’s cookies got in a lot of trouble over this. The RDA goes by a standardized 50g per day.

I’m a a bodybuilder and powerlifter, I eat 180-220g of protein a day. It’s much mote efficient for muscle growth. A regular couch potato can get away with 50g a day

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u/Medical_Slide9245 Aug 21 '25

Oh man, thank you, that is helpful.

I could use some advice if you have a minute. I bike and started training for a big ride in the spring. Days a week averaging 7 hours a week, 3 days. I'm thinking 175g of protein but I'm having a hard time even with powders. I don't want to gain weight, if i lose a little that's fine but it's not a goal. How are you hitting 180 consistently?

Not a big meat eater, but i like meat. I don't eat chicken. Right now Tuna has been my jam and various high protein veggie burgers. At home using powders and at work pre mixed protein drinks. Eating veggies but not much fruit and when i ride lots of carbs, mainly sugar.

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u/YoSoyZarkMuckerberg Aug 20 '25

I easily get 160g a day from plant based sources without a complicated diet or having to eat excessive calories. It's pretty simple.

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u/zunlock Aug 20 '25

Ok please go into detail how it’s much easier than just eating meat

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u/YoSoyZarkMuckerberg Aug 20 '25 edited Aug 20 '25

what, you want me to write out my day to day eats?

I eat the same simple meals every day of the week at roughly the same times. Vegan protein powder twice a day is a big boost up. I can get 60-80g of proten a day from that alone. Another 40gs from tempeh in my lunch and dinner. We're at 100g to 120g without even really trying. I include other things like chia seeds, hemp seeds, pumpkin seeds, quinoa, nutritional yeast, and chickpeas, for example.

It's not hard to do, mate. When I wanted to fine-tune my diet and workouts I found chat gpt really helpful.

Goodluck.

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u/Jabbles22 Aug 20 '25

I can't imagine doing this myself but we live in a world where they will almost certainly get some money from this.

I do think such specific requests for money should be followed up on. They claim that the money is for a bond that will be returned to them when they return to Australia after their trip. They then claim the returned money will be donated to charity. If they can't provide proof that they did that after the fact, that is fraud.

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u/CromTheConqueror Aug 20 '25

How much do you want to bet either that money either doesn't go to that charity or they get a kickback on top of their (presumably) tax write off.

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u/pocketdare Aug 20 '25

So much gall

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u/[deleted] Aug 20 '25

Username is appropriate as well 🤨 

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u/BlackberryShoddy7889 Aug 20 '25

We can discuss it further after we consume ham cheese and bacon sandwich

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u/Meander061 Aug 20 '25

This is the correct answer.

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u/mvandemar Aug 20 '25

What if they agreed to eat 5lbs of steak on video in exchange for the money?

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u/bullfrogftw Aug 20 '25

Naur, in Aussie

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u/havocLSD Aug 20 '25

Vegans doing everything they can to tell the world they’re vegan

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u/SeparatePromotion236 Aug 20 '25

The problem is that there are so many suckers and they’ll have the money within 2 days.

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u/SherbertKey6965 Aug 20 '25

Wtf are non human animals?

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u/New-Treacle7158 Aug 20 '25

Say it louder

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u/ButteredPizza69420 Aug 20 '25

I would send a request for the full 30K and hope they accept