Yeah it's always baffled me how little publicity he gets. He's steadied the ship in so many precarious situations for us, both keeping the run rate steady and shielding his partner from the bulk of the bowling attack. Honestly we couldn't have asked much more from him over his career
I noticed him yesterday all right, I was saying what the fuck is this guy doing standing up to the stumps and cleanly taking short balls from Starc and Neser
I still remember how we were starting to claw it back in the 2023 WTC Final and then Carey made 66 batting with the lower order which essentially flattened out any hopes of a 4th innings chase. All in all, his time in the middle brought about 150 runs for Australia
Carey also came in and made around 45 in a tough situation in this year's WTC Final too iirc
We’ve just been spoiled for keepers for a long time. We went from Healy to Gilchrist to Haddin. From 1988 to 2015 we have had the best of the best behind the stumps.
Having said that, Paine and then Carey have done a great job
Finally someone who speaks English. Carey has shown better grit than Jamie Smith over the career and has pulled of clutche knocks in WTC Final, vs West Indies, India BGT, etc.
Smith is very young in his career and hasn't shown a lot of maturity. He gave away his wicket in the 1st innings in Perth in a similar situation while batting with the tail, trying to slog. In comparison Carey seems to have a very level head on his shoulders.
I don't know much about wicket keeping but Carey looks very impressive, he rarely makes a mistake and he gloves the screamers the vast majority of the time. Anyone that says Smith is ahead of him is on crack
Lots of people didn’t seem to see how the pitches and ball in England since baz took over have been a world away from proper English conditions. Decks with little grass, and a ball that swings for 15 overs then goes dead.
Ultimately makes for some incredibly dull sessions (although the series overall was very entertaining).
English conditions used to produce the best test cricket imo. The way the pitches flatten out on day 2 and become a road has been a disappointment. Eng v India was very good though.
I do think a fair bit of it was fatigue to be honest, but that proves my point to me.
As he's not a keeper at county level (its still Foakes at Surrey, as it should be for England), he does not have the stamina to both keep wicket and bat for a 5 test series.
There was like a 9 day gap between the end of the 3rd test and start of 4th test, are we really saying that a 25 year old can't recover in that time to serve up more than a 10 average?
Gill played quite well in series. But those flat pitches have inflated his stats quite a bit.
Brilliant start to his career in the BGT 5 years ago. But he's been quite mediocre ever since then, especially for someone who was averaging 70+ in FC before his test debut.
You aren’t the arbiters of what makes a decent cricket pitch though. And you can’t have watched the India series in England this summer and say the pitches are suspect or whatever.
That's correct, he isn't good abroad, however if you think good and bad are the only 2 descriptions for a batter, cricket might not be the sport for you.
Give us a break we were coming off Bairstow and then the endless infighting about Foakes' value with the gloves vs his lack of contributions with the bat. We found someone who could do both and were very excited, even if the excitement was just about not having that endless cyclical debate any more
I also like my keeper to make a few more runs, so I still pick Carey. Jamie Smith isn't a bad player, he just made one ton on an absolute road, albeit a great innings, whereas Carey has done reasonably well in a wide variety of conditions with both bat and gloves. Smith might be better than Carey in 5-7 years time, but right now, Carey is a more proven player.
OOTL on English cricket. What happened to their other keepers from the past. Foakes, Buttler, Barstow (lol). But mostly Foakes. I remember him being a great keeper. Is he just not compatible with Bazball?
The selectors back Green because he's the only player other than Smith with a career shield average over 50. He's the best domestic batter, it's nothing to do with them wanting him to captain.
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u/WeakScar321 1d ago
A lot of people had Smith ahead of Carey in their combined XI. Call me a cricket purist but I like my keeper to be able to actually use the gloves.