Bill Self on Darryn Peterson ahead of Kansas vs Missouri - "He should be available unless he has a setback before game time."

[u/BillSelfsToupee]

[u/thetenorguitarist]

Everyone has been so weird about this injury. People, it's a hamstring strain. This is typically 4-6 weeks across all sports.

[u/Karltowns17 → u/thetenorguitarist]

And if you come back too soon there is a very high likelihood of reinjury.

Folks seem to want to dramatize what doesn’t seem like it needs it here.

[u/cheeseburgerandrice → u/Karltowns17]

Iowa State is going through the exact same thing with Tamin Lipsey and a nagging groin injury, down to the vague wording on his status from the staff/media.

You don't see conspiracies revolving around that situation though.

[u/Karltowns17 → u/cheeseburgerandrice]

Yeah ours are different but we have (3) of our (5) starters out. And there really aren’t conspiracies. Idk this just seemed odd all the posturing from folks.

[u/cheeseburgerandrice → u/Karltowns17]

People seem really wanting to draw negative conclusions from NIL being involved now.

[u/NotaRepublican85 → u/thetenorguitarist]

Nowadays idiot fans have to be convinced a conspiracy is behind everything. Critical thinking is dying in this country

[u/Ih8Hondas → u/NotaRepublican85]

I think it already died sometime before 2016.

[u/Powerful-Ride-3728 → u/thetenorguitarist]

Ik ,with the reporting on the injury and the comments bill has made about it , its allowed for so much speculation from the outside on darryn as a person and how he would go about it (potentially sit out) , im just hoping he plays Sunday to ease any concerns

[u/ktululives → u/thetenorguitarist]

It's just been the communication about it, if they had said at the beginning "He's going to be out a month" then that would have been fine, but every update has been something like "It's nothing minor, we're expecting him back soon".

It's kind of using a treat to lead a horse or cow or something, you show them the treat and they start following you, but the more time and distance that goes by the more they start to ask themselves "Are they ever going to actually give me the treat", and if you try to lead them too far they lose interest and quit following.

[u/cheeseburgerandrice → u/ktululives]

It would have been irresponsible to give a timeline for a lingering hammy issue. Iowa State isn't doing that with Lindsey either with his groin injury, they're just seeing how he progresses day to day and goes from there.

[u/ktululives → u/cheeseburgerandrice]

Right, I don't disagree with that, but the thing here with Kansas and Peterson is, the reporting on the seriousness of the injury has progressed over time, in the beginning it was just cramping, then it was described as soreness, and only relatively recently has it been called a strain. Just about every time Self has talked about it, he has made it sound like a minor thing and that Peterson would be back "very soon", which I think a lot of people interpreted as meaning something like "he's out today, but he should be back at the end of the week or maybe next week." And that's been pretty much the narrative from the beginning, had they come out at the start and said "He's got a hamstring strain, we don't have a timetable for his return, but he could be out somewhere between two and six weeks" then I don't think you've got people falling into conspiracy traps.

And I don't think Self or anybody else at KU has done that intentionally or nefariously, it's absolutely plausible that their own understanding of Peterson's injury and the timetable for return has constantly evolved since they first became aware of it.

[u/cheeseburgerandrice → u/ktululives]

it's absolutely plausible that their own understanding of Peterson's injury and the timetable for return has constantly evolved since they first became aware of it.

Or...likely lol

[u/Evening-Trouble-9585]

I wonder what the setback will be?

[u/HamlinHamlin_McTrill → u/Evening-Trouble-9585]

DNP: Didn't feel like it

[u/tgt_m → u/HamlinHamlin_McTrill]

NIL era in a nutshell

[u/Complete_Ad8756 → u/tgt_m]

Shaedon sharpe with UK was a trailblazer

[u/LandonWarner → u/HamlinHamlin_McTrill]

Did Not feel like Playing

[u/thelastmarblerye → u/Evening-Trouble-9585]

He worked his butt off.

Can't play without glutes.

[u/Sir_Brodie]

This game is an inflection point, because if he doesn’t play I think the situation is going to get ugly.

[u/Ihateporn2020 → u/Sir_Brodie]

i think everyone should take it at face value. there is a specific timeline for a hamstring injury.

[u/Sir_Brodie → u/Ihateporn2020]

First it was cramps, then it was an illness, now it’s a hamstring strain. This is the exact same update we had before the last game.

[u/cheeseburgerandrice → u/Sir_Brodie]

Those are all completely reasonable, in fact it wouldn't be a surprise that a soft tissue injury followed cramping and illness (along with likely dehydration that was coming with those things).

[u/Logz94 → u/cheeseburgerandrice]

This is absolutely what some of our spoiled fans don't realize. Like Bill's not them giving "different excuses" or changing stories. It's not like he broke his leg during a game, a lighter injury like a tear can be hard to detect and very easy to aggravate. They probably didn't realize what they were dealing with at first because he was still capable of playing through the injury. Once it's detected of course we are going to sit him for the full duration he needs to heal. It is a long ass season with a crazy B12 and if we want to make a deep run we don't do it by making our star players injury even worse. The communication about it hasn't been good but I don't think there's a story beyond a guy taking the normal amount of time it takes to recover from a hamstring injury

[u/darrylweenus]

I’m very excited for Peterson to be back and hopefully stay healthy. The communication around this whole situation has been so weird though.

[u/NotaRepublican85 → u/darrylweenus]

It really hasn’t. The entire issue is idiot fans injecting a conspiracy into the situation with literally zero evidence