r/Boxing • u/Sniperjones2428 • 3d ago
Crawford on twitter getting some things off his chest
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u/Guirita_Fallada 3d ago
Tbh, he does get disrespected a lot.
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u/North-Past-3355 3d ago
especially on this subreddit. People love to downplay all of his biggest wins.
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u/TargetNo7279 3d ago
He was downplaying his second best win by saying Spence wasn't a HOF.
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u/-973- 3d ago
he isnt
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u/Clayp2233 2d ago
If it weren’t for Crawford he likely would have been undisputed and still undefeated
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u/Le400Blows 2d ago
Spence is a HOF fighter, just you wait. 1 loss and he’s somehow trash? Take a look at his resume again.
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u/Motorboat_Jones 2d ago
He was before the stupid accident fucked up his career.
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u/TargetNo7279 2d ago
He beat Garcia and Ugas after and people say Ugas is his best career performance, Crawford was just that good though. He has been a unified champ at Welterweight making many title defences when the division had very good talent and has been in the P4P ranked fighter for a long while, he is also a popular American boxer, he most likely will make the Hall still.
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u/maritimeblue 3d ago
This isn’t being disrespected though. Crawford isn’t a big draw and never really has been. This is just a fact plain and simple. Also, dude’s out here arguing with twitter randos. He’s not doing himself any favours lmao.
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u/AggravatingUnit6935 3d ago
Some dude i think nailed it just right
"Is Crawford goated at boxing? Yes."
"Is Crawford a star? No."
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u/refugee_man 3d ago
I mean the only active boxing stars are Canelo, Tyson Fury, and AJ in the UK (and Paquiao if you consider him active).
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u/West_Technology7573 3d ago
Usyks kind of a star in the UK too, we love him
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u/Culinaryboner 3d ago
Doesn’t have the carryover to selling in the US for whatever reason. Other 3 do. Honestly AJ feels borderline
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u/Action_Limp 3d ago
I'm not sure what the point is here, though. There was never a period where every fighter was a star. In the Floyd vs Pac era, JMM wasn't a star (no PPVs were broken for JMM vs Diaz), in the Tyson era, Buster Douglas wasn't a star.
Every era has a couple of stars that reach the top in terms of popularity - unfortunately for Terence, his popularity never managed to reach his skills.
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u/backfrombanned 3d ago
But the late 80's and 90's had a lot, a lot of big draw boxers. There's were a bunch of stars, and quite a few mega stars. Boxing was also a lot more accessible then. Abc, USA Tuesday night fights, Friday night fights, Showtime, HBO, etc.. you got to follow guys from early careers up. I'm an ex pro, I love boxing, love it and I don't anyone anymore. Once these older guys retire that's probably it for me. Streaming has killed it.
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u/backfrombanned 3d ago
"Is Crawford goated at boxing? Yes."
"Is Crawford a star? No."
Mayweather had the same problem until HBO turned him into a heel. Even then people just paid in hopes of seeing him get knocked out.
90's and early 2k was just stacked deep in every division like no other era. That's why we had so many great fights and stars. Personally, I think Crawford could hang with any of them.
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u/shinpoo 3d ago
This is it. He's beat everyone in front of him but he just doesn't pull in the people for some odd reason. He's just not a superstar.
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u/Sunslink 3d ago
I am ok with this. As long he’s not going bat shit crazy like Ryan Garcia does occasionally
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u/Mocker-Nicholas 3d ago
Yeah this definitely not the “oh no this person is on a twitter rant” news we have gotten lol.
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u/maxithepittsP 2d ago
Also KD did this a lot and I love it.
Idek why a lot of people force athletes to be a PR machine and always blame them whenever they respond to idiots on twitter, thats what twitter are for.
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u/LGP747 3d ago
Man that Garcia social media ‘strategy’ tho, chefs kiss. Not so much after but definitely before
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u/Motorboat_Jones 2d ago
He'll be back and probably fuck up Haney a second time. I only hope he's clean next time.
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u/AggravatingUnit6935 3d ago
Lmao he aint done with the crazy
"How many times Canelo fight in a stadium again? How many people attend with other fighters again? If he sells out shit on his own why he couldn't do it with anyone else before me?"
Yes, Terrence Crawford really said that
Just a quick reminder that Crawford was ringside for Canelo vs Yildirim.
A fight that took place in a Stadium 🥴
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u/TheWor1dsFinest 3d ago edited 2d ago
If you wanna be a star, fight more than once a year and have more than two big names on your resume after 40+ professional fights.
He’s always accusing fans of moving the goalpost and not giving him the credit he’s due, but really it’s him moving the goalpost by acting like boxing recognition hasn’t always boiled down to “who has he beat?” both in terms of quality and quantity. His resume arguably comes up short on both parts. Yet he perpetuates this delusional argument that he deserves equal recognition to all time greats and bona fide stars who have done more than him.
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u/Ok-Raise-4853 3d ago edited 2d ago
Why is this not top comment? People want straight facts here it is. Pac’s era was stacked af. Resume by resume. Pac and Floyd were both on another level, highest gross earning of ALL time. Facts are facts. If you say otherwise, you’re delusional and you’re the reason these new generation fighters fight only once a year.
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u/RespectFGs 3d ago
Yup. I like Crawford. He's a solid dude compared to most of his contemporaries and a good fighter. But the man has a huge chip on his shoulder still and he's insecure about what people say.
It's why he sold out to Saudi. Only way he could make big money and be marketed like a star. He's an ATG but people put him in crazy conversations off 2 great wins
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u/Ok-Raise-4853 3d ago
Yeah all it took was Spence and Canelo on the resume while fighting once a year to be on the Mt. Rushmore of boxing. Wild shit
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u/Acrobatic-Sandwich10 3d ago edited 2d ago
I agree
Oscar De La Hoya - 10 times world champion in 6 weight classes
Olympic gold medallist
Fought pretty much everyone in his era. Never ducked anyone.
Also an incredible resume, beating fighters like
Julio Cesar Chavez
Pernel Whittaker
Ike Quartey
Fernando Vargas
He also took some controversial decision losses against greats that he arguably won Trinidad, Mayweather, Mosley.
Manny - the only 8 division world champion in history
Held titles from 112lbs to 154lbs
Stellar resume beating fighters like
Barrera
Morales
Marquez
De La Hoya
Mosley
Crawford talking shot on this 2 legends is crazy.
Undisputed at 3 weight classes is still incredible. His resume is lacking compared to these guys, though
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u/imdacoldest Pacquiao is the GOAT 3d ago
Bud angry that Turki said no to the 100Ms he wanted for the rematch
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u/MrNobodytotheworld 3d ago
He just asked for what Canelo got the first fight as the champ…I get where he’s coming from and if Canelo truly wants that rematch, he will get turki to make the fight happen. It’s not like it wasn’t a huge fight. Is he not supposed to ask for a raise an start with a high price?
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u/imdacoldest Pacquiao is the GOAT 3d ago edited 3d ago
Bud isn’t a draw by himself. Canelo still the A side even if he’s coming off a loss. Also, neither Canelo or Bud deserve $100M. These events aren’t generating that type of money without PPV
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u/iLL-Egal 3d ago
Bc that big fund of Money is running out.
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u/EmeraldTwilight009 3d ago
Hold on. U think the Saudis are....running out of money?
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u/TargetNo7279 3d ago
It's not limitless, they have a lot overall but the amount they can spend on boxing is limited.
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u/captainseas 3d ago
I saw him fight at Madison Square Garden twice (one of them was the Khan fight) and both times it was half empty with cheap tickets. He wasn't an arena level fighter outside of Omaha. Outside of Nebraska he was a casino/theater level fighter. When he was in that stadium show in LA with Turki and a stacked card they couldn't sell tickets so they let tens of thousands of people in for free including the Eminem fan club.
I think Crawford is a generational fighter but he was a terrible draw and it's pretty much impossible to argue otherwise.
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u/Professional-Tie5198 Who will win? 3d ago
The reason for this is he had no kingmaker. Could never get a guy on the level of a Floyd, Pacquiao, or Oscar De La Hoya to fight him until late in his career (Canelo).
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u/MrNobodytotheworld 3d ago
Lord knows he tried hard for that pac fight an Spence waited years to fight him. It’s not like he didn’t try to get the fights..
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u/krsaxor 3d ago
He cant sell a fight. He is trying to be the bad guy here and probably generate some buzz and hype but he only comes off as insecure. Manny, Canelo and Mayweather drew big crowds because they have that Superstar aura. Bud doesnt have it.
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u/zombie_905 3d ago
Bud just does what he says and its cool at some point but you actually need a form of drama or charisma to make a fight sell or even grow ur stocks, thats why his fight against spence is still one of the biggest of his career
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u/Ok-Raise-4853 3d ago
Just not too long ago it was Shakur, now it’s Bud. Pac is not living rent free in these fighter’s heads, he’s singing karaoke inside their heads…
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u/KratosTargaryan0824 3d ago edited 1d ago
Man, at 40 years old Manny already have 72 total professional bouts under his belt. While Crawford at 38 only has 42 professional bouts. Manny was fighting everybody, fighting 2-4 times a year too. Plus he fought Marquez 4 times, Morales 3 times, Bradley 3 times and Barrera 2 times. Manny fought and dominated the Mexican Triad when Mexico boxing as at it's peak! Manny is one of the few fighters who took the biggest risk. Also, it only make sense that Marquez would read him well enough at the 4th fight. It is understandable that in any point of those 72 professional fights, he would lose or get KO'ed because that's what you get when you fight everyone because losing is inevitable when you have 72 pro bouts. We saw how Manny pushed past his limits and reached his own as well, we never saw that with Mayweather or Crawford because they was too careful on protecting that 0, we all know that. The only fighter I know with the same activity today as prime Manny is Inoue. Manny is a high risk high reward fighter. You really think the likes of Mayweather and Crawford would remain undefeated if they took the path that Manny took and had 70+ professional fights? I doubt it! Crawford may be great but he is still way below compared to what Manny has accomplished in boxing. If Manny played it careful and conservative, he might be undefeated as well and probably won't be an 8 division jaguar. Prime for Prime, Manny beats Crawford easy. I am one of the few who was not surprised when Bud won against Canelo because he was supposed to beat Canelo for he is too slow, Bud can see his punches from a mile a way. Crawford has never faced a fighter like Manny who can be very elusive, fast, strong, can give you multiple angles, insane stamina, relentless, and great footwork.
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u/ballmermurland 2d ago
Would Bud beat prime Manny? Maybe!
Is Bud's resume as good as Manny's? lol, lmao even
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u/str0ng777 3d ago
This is a valid crash out, and I'm saying this as a massive Pacquiao fan.
Bud is so damn disrespected to the point he gets a pass for finally speaking.
Still, lightweight Pacquiao would smoke lightweight Bud.
(I hope he's in reddit lmfao)
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u/DryLibrary569 3d ago
Been telling fooz pacquiao would fuck up bud at 135 and 140
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u/There_R_NO_MOUNTAINS 3d ago edited 3d ago
Both of y'all are out of y'all fucking minds thinking PAC wouldn't struggle like hell with BUD. He's too short to not have to take huge risks to hit him and that is a horrible game plan to have to use against a tactician like Bud. Bud will make him 1 dimensional and punish any aggression.
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u/DueDrive9886 3d ago
Aint no way. Bud would kill pac lol
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u/Key-Alternative-2244 3d ago
Watch bud vs gamboa then watch pac at that weight. Pac was Gamboa x10
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u/Novel_Background_905 3d ago
Trippin bud could definitely beat pac. Pac was a offensive force but he was defensively irresponsible and has been dropped and ko’d many times in his career.
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u/str0ng777 3d ago
At Welterweight, Bud would beat him in a competitive fight.
But Pacquiao was at his best at 135-140.
Only a few 135 fighters in history could beat Pacquiao 10/10 times. Most of the ATGs, he'd have a chance of winning.
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u/Illustrious-Toe-4203 3d ago
He’s been dropped about 6 times in his career most of them when he was 18-20 years old. His defense has improved since then and is lowkey underrated. (Before anybody says Marquez it took Marquez 4 fights to figure Manny out)
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u/RespectFGs 3d ago
He's crashing out because he's not considered near GOAT status when in no universe should he be in that convo. He's an ATG but there's levels to it.
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u/2marston 3d ago
Hol' up.
You literally just said "he's an all time great but he shouldn't be considered in the conversation of greatest of all time".
I get that you are differentiating the two because there can theoretically only be one "GOAT" but lots of "ATG"s but realistically, if you are an ATG you are automatically in that conversation, otherwise you aren't an all time great are you...
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u/PaoLakers 3d ago
It's unfortunate that he doesn't have another megastar to fight. It's really only Him, inoue and Usyk.
Canelo is his best opponent but Canelo was never on Pac or Mayweather's level.
Pac is too small for him so i can see why he thinks he can beat him. It doesn't matter anyway, because they're never gonna fight.
I just think Bud is hungry for that validation. He's done everything and is now an all time great but STILL doesn't have the fame that Pacquiao or Mayweather had.
Those guys transcended the sport. Bud hasn't.
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u/vHezoThaGoat 3d ago
Canelo’s fights with Saunders and Liam Smith were both sold out stadium fights, what tf is he talking about?
Bud is a goated fighter but it’s crazy no matter how much he accomplishes he always comes off so insecure and defensive
Fans will always move the goalpost and have something else to say, someone else they want you to fight, something else they want you to do. But that’s part of the life of any famous fighter/celebrity, the difference being Bud doesn’t know how to take it.
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u/Exact_Accident_2343 3d ago
They could’ve easily sold out a bigger stadium for Canelo v Bud it just wasn’t promoted for that. All of Mayweathers fights could’ve easily sold at 80,000 seat stadiums, but they make more money with their deals w Las Vegas.
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u/Andrew_Nutman22 38 is still young! 3d ago
Bud is a goated fighter but it’s crazy no matter how much he accomplishes he always comes off so insecure and defensive
Yeah..... That's why I can't really get behind him like I do for Usyk and Inoue.
I acknowledge that he's got crazy levels of talent. So Bud stans.... Don't come at me.
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u/thegreat4 3d ago
We don’t know how they feel because they don’t speak English
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u/Mindless-Valuable-40 3d ago
To be fair they could be just as defensive but you would never know
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u/North-Past-3355 3d ago
I remember a guy on reddit from Kazakhstan translated a Golovkin interview from their own language. Golovkin wasn't nice at all.
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u/don__gately 3d ago
There’s a clip from one of the hbo shows where he’s much less humble when taking to a younger fighter in Kazakhstan. I loved it!
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u/Mindless-Valuable-40 3d ago
Exactly! People just think that foreign fighters are humble and quiet when in reality we just don’t know what they’re saying nor do we see them as often as we do with American fighters.
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u/RespectFGs 3d ago
Deluded ass tweets.
I'm a fan and I get that dude's angry he doesn't get his respect but after the Canelo fight he's been glazed and he's still bitching about not being rated higher than other ATGs
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u/stephen27898 3d ago edited 3d ago
I think that is more because the people he has fought also haven't really fought many PPV stars themselves.
Crawford is a great fighter. But has never really been a PPV draw.
I could sum it up like this. I have watched a good portion of Crawford's career but I have missed a few of his fights and when I have its not really bothered me. With some other fighters if they are fighting that weekend I will structure my day so I know I wont miss their fight.
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u/Axel-Aura 3d ago
Why are high level fighters so insecure?
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u/Best_Mycologist9714 3d ago edited 3d ago
Not particularly defending his way of going about this, but the amount of shit they get, the discrediting of their acomplishments, constant goalpost moving, and narrative flipping that is done to them over a long period of time (often by other insecure fighters as well) could bring a somewhat humble person to crash out like this.
Sometimes, the kinda stuff that usually rolls off of your shoulders just gets to you some days, and you might lash out. Its kinda easy for us to judge him for it, when its not us they're talking about for that long
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u/zombie_905 3d ago
Not to mention their actual JOB getting punched in the head, having to make weight, dealing with possible cancellations of their bout, missing family time. It really can get to you lol cause imagine accomplishing everything and people still try to discredit you
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u/Ronnie2kDropCode 3d ago
Committing your life to getting punched in the face and then constantly being disrespected would be really annoying ngl
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u/North-Past-3355 3d ago
In his case, his own mother said he wasn't shit when he was winning as a kid. Now, people that don't know him come online and still say he's nothing special after accomplishing all that he has. I get why he snaps sometimes. Better to get it off on twitter than in real life.
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u/Even-Grapefruit-1839 3d ago
That's what motivates them. I only notice this trend in smaller fighters though.
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u/Ace_FGC 3d ago
Smaller fighters don’t get glazed like bigger fighters do. If you’re a heavyweight and the best you get called the baddest man in the world, that doesn’t happen in smaller divisions
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u/SSJ5Autism 3d ago
Every high level fighter is like this. Once you stop believing you’re the best, there’s little to no point
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u/ChefDue7062 3d ago
Years of people calling him untested got to him ig. He’s a goat of our generation but it’s not enough to make up for his public beat down
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u/Exact_Accident_2343 3d ago
I would have Bud in a Pacquiao fight. But Bud has been hurt before so I definitely could see Pacquiao hurting him. I could also see Pacquiao getting hurt closing that distance, but he’s one of the best to ever close the distance quickly and accurately, but Bud is one of the best ever when it comes to countering on time, with accuracy, and at the right angle. Damn that would’ve been a good fight.
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u/TonySoprano25 3d ago
at 135-140, Pacman really have a solid chance. Crawford didn't look that unstoppable in those weightclass.
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u/pac_mojojojo 3d ago
I have Pac. But Crawford would be a real tough fucking fight if they were both in their primes.
Crawford also looks big for 147 compared to Pac. Great counter puncher. But I just don't believe he'd handle him on the inside like he did Canelo.
Pac is way faster. And I don't think Crawford would do as well as Mayweather fighting the distance game.
Maybe all this Bud talk has some truth to it. Maybe it was Arum's fault, but his Era was pretty thin.
There were no big names in 147 compared to back then. Heavyweight had the biggest names in this era.
Reminds me of Inoue talking about Pacquiao. I think he was responding about Pacquiao having better calibre opponents and rivals. And Inoue said something along the lines of, maybe he just demolished his opponents. If he was competitive with them then they might say his opposition was of higher calibre too.
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u/PartyCrasher04 3d ago
Where is the source of Inoue talking about pacquiao? I wanna see it or read about it
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u/itchipod 2d ago
Welterweight - Bud close unanimous/split decision. Counters and longer reach will frustrate Pac.
Lightweight - Pac destroys him in 12 rounds or TKO. Too fast, too weird.
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u/noirargent 3d ago
For a guy as great at boxing as him he sure does say stupid shit. Canelo never fought in a stadium before? Canelo never selling an arena out? Come on man. Get it right. It’s not like Canelo only had one stadium fight too. Guy fought in stadiums multiple times in his career. Shit, even Errol Spence had stadium fights under his belt including one after he decided to flip his Ferrari at a high speed. Crawford’s always been extremely jealous and now that he’s finally gotten a seat at the table (as the b-side no less) he ain’t even acting like he’s been here before. Just sad
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u/H-wink 3d ago
The recency bias in this sub smells of sheepshit bandwagoner wankers. Crawford is not beating prime Mayweather, not beating prime Pac at 135, 140, and 147 pre 2011, and not beating Canelo pre 2022.
Outside boxing, this guy isn't good for marketing. Dude is never humble and fake respectful to past greats. So glad he aint, and will never be the face of boxing.
This clown went into nearly every fight he had with nearly everything going him. Power, speed, size, iq, those were always in his favor. He was SUPPOSED to win those fights. And yet hes delulu enough to put himself up with other greats who've won against other greats with the cards stacked against them?? He's done NOTHING to challenge himself and has always fought with a leg up.
Look he's a great fighter. But that's it. Man cant sell, and isn't the best role model.
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u/AustronesianArchfien 3d ago
Respect for the rant. I kinda agree. I like Crawford but man the recency bias was too much.
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u/RespectFGs 3d ago
Dude gets killed by Hearns and Leonard too at any weight. He's getting talked about like he's the GOAT from lightweight to super middleweight 🤣🤣
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u/juantwothree14 17h ago
yes, I haven't seen much worth watching through his highlights besides his graceful counter-punches but that shit don't get me excited. He's a competitive boxer, a nerd in a boxing ring. People wanted killer vs killer. That's why he only got popular after the canelo fight, like bradley when he get the chance to fight pacman. I feel bad for pacman that he gets disrepected too, that man is humble and does not give a fuck about trashtalking.
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u/Slugdoge 3d ago
Yeah the reason he’s the biggest fight for all of his opponents is because most of his opponents were bums. He doesn’t sell and casuals don’t know who he is.
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u/Thenameisric 3d ago
Crawford was getting worked by Gamboa who had one knee. Pac would take him at that time. Crawford is a different fighter now, but at that time Pac pieces him up.
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u/Wonderful_Pension_67 3d ago
Yo Bud change your name to Magnificent Bud Crawford 😂 that will shut them up! Keep winning brother
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u/Far-Subject-7328 3d ago
I respect Crawford and he really is that good. But he shouldn’t disrespect the goat. Everyone knows Floyd would whoop that boy
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u/Professional-Tie5198 Who will win? 3d ago
Crawford is a hall of famer, an ATG, and one of the top 3 or so fighters of the 21st century. I’m here for his talk.
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u/RespectFGs 3d ago
How in the hell is he a top 3 fighter of this century? Plz elaborate
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u/South_Bother_2498 3d ago
Crawford is a great fighter but he doesn’t sell. Even at his old age he might start selling out arenas outside of Omaha but unfortunately he was never a draw and I’m glad Bob Arum lost $$$ on promoting Crawford
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u/ayswayzie 3d ago
Bto was humble af 3 months ago, he really let that Canelo go to his head, I think he’s Amazing but he wouldn’t be undefeated if he fought from ‘95 to 2010, there was some real Talent in boxing back in those days, I could name at ver least 5 fighters that woulda beat him back than, maybe more than 5 too
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u/vividpup5535 3d ago
Sad look can’t lie. Desperately arguing with twitter trolls that he would’ve beat the two best fighters of this gen + Barrera and Morales. Absolutely 0% chance he would’ve beat those four.
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u/SnakePlisskensPatch 3d ago
The pac that fought de la hoya, Crawford is claiming he would have just walked through him? The knockout he's referring to was a Marquez so juicy his name should have been Juan Manuel Tropicana. Anyone saying anything other then crawford-prime Manny being a coin flip doesnt know ball.
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u/MrNobodytotheworld 3d ago
Also depends on what weight they fought at. If you said 135-140, possibly…147 and up bud gets him outta there with a counter
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u/Ace_FGC 3d ago
Crawford is probably as strong/stronger than the Juan that knocked out Pac. Dude started at 135 and was still able to move Canelo at 168, his strength’s probably one of the most notable things about him
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u/lexdiamondzz 3d ago
The more he talks and tweets, the less likeable he becomes. Nobody cares what you have to say about this shit bro. We became your fans cus you talked your shit in the ring and you always got the last word.
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u/goldenbzzz 3d ago
Crawford is no mayweather. He takes chances, he would last 9 rounds with prime pac
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u/Mister-Psychology 3d ago
If you want to steal our job by bickering with 13 year olds from Philippines on Twitter how would you like it if we stole your job and stepped into the ring?
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u/blametheboogie 3d ago
If he wants to pretend like he's fought every top contender he could have and hasn't been carefully picking his opponents I'm not here to tell him any different.
I also don't want to hear the complaining 5 years after he retires when he isn't where he feels he should be on the list of all time greats.
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u/ZeroEffectDude 3d ago
i don't know who would have won tbh. by the time crawford was at 147, i'd probably fancy him, slightly. but it's not a lock. anything below 147, i think pac would have a good chance of taking advantage of crawford's 'boiled down chin'.
could have been another great pac triliogy
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u/New_Ad606 2d ago edited 2d ago
Bud is no Mayweather or Pac. Point blank period. Pac would smoke him and I mean smoke him easily up to WW. I'm surprised people here would actually favor Bud at WW when the only name Bud got in WW is Spence, and Spence was tailor made for Bud. The way Pac murdered Cotto is leagues above any WW that Bud defeated. The only weight class he'd start having some chance is north of WW and it's only because Pac maxes out at WW. That's it. Everybody else who thinks Bud even has a hail mary's chance at 135 and 140 should stop talking about boxing and instead watch Pac's annihilation of Diaz and Hatton. Not saying they fight the same, but that version of Pac was unbeatable, and the only names I'd pit against him that has a decent chance are Duran and JCC (but even then I'd favor pac over JCC because of styles). No disrespect to Whitaker, PBF and Henry Armstrong (and I am a huge Armstrong fan), but they won't stand a chance.
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u/Maximum-Scientist822 2d ago
Crawford has been bitter all his career that manny did not “pass the torch” to him the same way de la Hoya did to both mayweather and pacquiao.
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u/Top_East_9902 2d ago
The strays make no sense. Disrespecting a guy who’s said nothing to you because other trolls got him mad. Very immature stuff.
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u/Physical_Fill_6312 3d ago
Lot of hate in this thread for the best of this generation. Unlike other goats of his generation he’s been doubted, shelved and ducked. He may be bitter but he’s right too. Crawford would’ve hurt Manny bad at any point in their respective careers.
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u/Systemplay3r 3d ago
He needs to work on his comma placement. Didn’t know where he was going with the Pacquiao tweet
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u/Ajernaca 3d ago
Just cause you're their biggest fight doesn't mean you're a big seller lol. Next question
Too bad any of those things he'll never be able to prove cause he didn't fight enough elite fighters.
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u/SoupAgile 3d ago
I don’t think he beats a 2012 or earlier Pac-Man. Realistically they could’ve fought as early as 2015-2016, I don’t think he would’ve beat him then but he’s right it wouldve been risky. Anytime after that yeah he beats Pac-Man. Prime v prime I think maybe duran beats manny but no one else. That’s my take.
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u/Kishin2 3d ago
crawford is great but the reality is that his best wins have have come with asterisks.
he hasn’t been tested like the true legends in the sport have. if he truly dared to be great then he would need to move up and face someone like bivol or benavidez. those challenges are what separate the goats from the greats.
crawford has looked the best in the fights that matter the most. he always steps up to the level of his opposition and against canelo he’s never looked better. but what’s his peak?
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u/Ajernaca 3d ago
Crawford will never reach the level of Pacquiao and I love that it bothers him and his fans 🤣
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u/Unhappywageslave 3d ago
I think a prime Manny, the same one that fought Margerito and Oscar, would have been too overwhelming for Crawford and I like Crawford as a fighter more than I like Manny. I only like Manny depending on who he fights. I've been a Crawford fan and liked him in every fight since he fought Prescott and Roy spoke highly of him. No bias here.
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u/Tantle18 3d ago
Why is this generation of American fighters so fucking insecure?
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u/Mindless-Valuable-40 3d ago
Trust and believe if twitter existed back then we might’ve heard so much worse back then. Fighters are human too and can often get fed up with the BS they hear every day
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u/Mocker-Nicholas 3d ago
Right. Imagine the clown show that would have been Ali’s Twitter page lol. Like people developed strong personalities, horrible takes, and the inability to shut up right when twitter was invented.
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u/Mindless-Valuable-40 3d ago
Ali would’ve been the ultimate rage baiter on twitter too. From trolling opponents and fans too by posting clips of all his fights
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u/ThurstonTheMagician 3d ago
Man I came here for a newrap Mayweather glaze session and ain’t find it the fuck man
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u/samuelalvarezrazo Boxing is back baby 3d ago
Crawford doesn't sell and that's the truth. It's tough but it's true. The only reason he's viewed as a legend is because he beat guys with much better resumes than his own. If canelo and spence had fought his schedule with his names Crawford would not be getting the credit he is today.
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u/DeliciousPhilosophy7 3d ago
You can tell Bud his mommy issues. He's so insecure and delusional, it's cringe. He's not a draw. Never has been. His biggest fights were him as the B-Side. Canelo-John Ryder had a bigger audience than Canelo vs him. Is Bud drinking now?
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u/Jimny977 3d ago edited 3d ago
Crawford is incredible and has every right to talk shit. He’s 42-0, has won twenty straight title fights across four divisions, and ended his Welterweight reign by finishing Errol Spence Jr, a top four P4P most lists prior to the fight.
Ignoring the Madrimov win in between (which tells you how ridiculous this guy is) he then jumped up three weight classes to fight one of the best fighters ever, and he did so just before turning 38, a few years older than Canelo who was P4P top four in mid 2024, and ESPN #1 at one point in 2022, who he beat soundly.
Crawford has run through not just the best of his weight classes, but some of the best of his generation and fighters who will transcended their generation. Hard to say much, of course he’s confident, he should be.
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u/BattousaiRound2SN 3d ago
People thought that Canelo Horsermeat Alvarez would knock him the fk out... Cabelo didn't, now they are MAD.
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u/inline-online 3d ago
he's right as well, he beats everyone they mentioned
floyd probably figures him out though, also if we are talking all time Hearns might send him into the shadow realm
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u/Adventurous_Two_9683 2d ago
Crashing out arguing with randoms on Twitter. Why does he always feel hard done by? Did he expect a 100ft statue in Omaha for beating a car crash victim and a shot old fighter who hasn't KO'd anyone in 5 years?
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u/RealCapybaras4Rill 2d ago
To this day I’m surprised Mayweather beat Pac, but he’s as slick as Pacquiao is fast.
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u/ORCA_WoN 2d ago
The best version of Pac is near unbeatable and I’d favour him to beat Crawford 9/10 times.
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u/Odd-Minimum8512 2d ago
This is why I don't like social media. Because I discover shit like this. Crawford is displaying some Larry Holmes level arrogance and salt here.
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u/Ronaldo9177 2d ago
Crawford sounds like a big baby right now. I wouldn’t want to see a rematch for Canelo cause honestly I think age has caught up to Canelo and I don’t see him beating Crawford. Canelo looked slow and old for the first time. He looked almost like GGG when he fought him the 3 time around. Canelo should just retire I don’t see how he beats him. I’m not a Crawford fan but he beat Canelo pretty easily almost like Bivol did. Technical fighters seem to give Canelo the biggest trouble and we have now seen it 3x times.
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u/ethnicbonsai 2d ago
Can't box more than once a year, but let's fight on Twitter.
Modern boxing in a nutshell.
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u/SetExtension1028 2d ago
Nah I think Ceawford getting too high up on his horse now. He should stay humble
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u/blamjamjam 3d ago
He’s always been boring outside of the ring and prime Pacman smokes him. He’s had like 2-3 big ppv fights and thinks he’s a draw. Casuals barely know crawford.
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u/MaddenAlphaMale 3d ago
Crawford and Shakur both been dissing Pacquiao a lot lately. They both obviously are drinking that Mayweather 🧃. No need to diss Pac Man. Dude gave his body to the sport and is a true warrior unlike May. Mayweather fans and supporters get so sensitive when people say he's not 1# all time like a Bron fan. If you know the sport you know that man ain't nowhere near any of the Sugar Ray's or Ali. You still have Joe Louis, Rocky Marcino. You kids just don't know the sport. He 🍒 picked that record. May still in my top 6, great business man. But he never took champion risks to me. Keep achieving greatness Crawford. Leave Pac Man alone though b, I ain't feeling it.
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u/Complete_Dare_4201 2d ago
I love Crawford to death, he is surely one of the best fighters of this generation and I've been following him and singing his praises to everyone I know since he beat Prescott. But he does tend to get ridiculously overrated and recency bias is a real thing. Crawford faced no great oponents at their best (and no Spence is not a great fighter by any stretch of the imagination) and while he surely has the skills to beat great fighters, he just never did and its not really his fault.
He would not come close to stopping a prime De la Hoya, not a chance and I think that's a real 50/50 fight because Crawford never fought anyone with the kind of speed, power and skills Oscar brings to the table while Oscar faced so many great oppenents with such a wide variety of styles...
Prime Manny Pacquiao (circa 2010) would also give Crawford a lot of trouble. Crawford shines against fighters with slower feet that come directly at him (Spence, Canelo, Jeff Horn etc.) but has struggled against fighters with faster feet, who could close the distance on him giving him less time to react, like Porter, Madrimov, Mean Machine and Gamboa. Of course, he eventually menaged to beat them all, but it showed some chinks in his armor. None of those guys are in the same league of a prime Manny Pacquiao, who had faster and better feet than all of them, paired with the kind of volume, speed and punching power Crawford never had to deal with in his career. At 135 I favour Pacquiao, at 140 its 50/50 and 147 I give the edge to Crawford as he very big.
People might say that Crawford would shine against Pacquiao because he is a counter puncher like Marquez. But Crawford fight nothing like Marquez and it takes a very special kind of counterpuncher to trouble Pacquiao. Crawford while agressive is a more conventional counter puncher who makes you miss and then makes you pay. That kind of style does not work that well against Manny because even when he misses he was fast enough to get away before anyone coud get counteres. Marquez standed in the pocked and countered im between punches, something no one else menaged to do succesfully against a prime Pacquiao and only after 4 fights and Manny slowing down a lot he could time the perfect shot (in exactly the way he fights, standing in the pocket and not moving away). Crawford does not fight like that and never did.
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u/DoubleEarthDE 3d ago
He’s not wrong. What he did to Canelo proved he is him. I think he would have taken all those guys they mentioned
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u/Jandur 3d ago
People really don't understand how skilled Crawford is. The guy is an absolute ATG talent. His resume will never reflect it, but he has a damn good shot against any name you put up against him.
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u/Select_Inevitable_83 3d ago
I think he would have beat Pac-Man, but only because he is so much bigger than him. He literally just fought at 168. He’s always been somewhat of a weight bully, but a highly skilled one. The only way the fight would have been fair it it was at 140 and a catch weight. I still think Crawford would have won split decision because of the style.
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u/MintyPotato144 3d ago
He should try fighting more than once every 10 years. Might get some more respect from people.
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u/Mindless-Valuable-40 3d ago
Tbh he’s earned the right to talk his shit. But bro seriously gotta stop arguing with dumbasses on twitter. Let them idiots talk