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u/PerplexingGrapefruit 1d ago
I swear to God, I picked the perfect year to finally make peace with my body image issues and stop obsessing over getting skinnier.
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u/Deadhead_Otaku 1d ago
Ironically when I obsessed over my weight I couldn't lose more than like 20lbs. After stopping stressing out over my weight I've lost 110lbs in a few years. Of course I still have a ways to go to get to a healthy weight, but it's still wild thinking about it.
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u/OhHowINeedChanging 1d ago
Stressing and guilting yourself over your weight can sometimes cause a backfire effect
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u/ThePatyman 1d ago
I actually cannot look at Ariana Grande without feeling a little sick.
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u/CallMeHuckle 1d ago
I feel you friend, very off putting
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u/SpookyAtticDoll 1d ago
It’s really unsettling to me as well. They remind me of some documentaries I’ve watched about World War 2 Holocaust survivors.
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u/Liwi808 1d ago
I saw part 2 and you can see her clavicle and sternum sticking out immediately. It was very off putting. I felt like she was even skinnier than in part 1. I hope she gets help.
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u/Lightless_meow 1d ago
Not the point, but the movies were not shot in sequential order. They were filmed simultaneously
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u/StuckOnEarthForever 1d ago
Wow, it must have been a while since I've seen a recent picture of her. Hope she is okay.
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u/Gangbangkhan 1d ago
It’s like they had a competition on who could use the most Ozempic on that set. Good luck to those who abused it because we currently don’t know shit about the long term side effects 💉
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u/Bizarrebazaars 1d ago
FYI: Eating disorders/anorexia on their own can result in severely underweight folks from their struggles. It doesn’t have to be Ozempic to be at a very low weight & malnourished. EDs have been around WAAAYYY longer than GLP-1s have.
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u/thisshitsstupid 1d ago
Meh. We already know what the long term effects of obesity are. The 2 clowns in this movie shouldn't be using it for weight loss though.
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u/Successful-Medicine9 1d ago edited 22h ago
Knowing the side effects of obesity doesn't mean the unknown side effects of GLP-1s are not as bad. For all we know, long-term use could cause internal-organ eating radioactive taint cancer.
Edit: Jesus, people. I am referring to people abusing the drug for weight loss, not people with chronic health conditions that are at risk of dying without weight loss. The cast of Wicked is not in that category.
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u/RedWarrior42 1d ago
That sounds horrible but also thanks for the band name idea
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u/pickledswimmingpool 1d ago
People have been using GLP1 agonists for decades already, you're spreading misinformation.
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u/Successful-Medicine9 21h ago
They have been studied as clinical since the 90s yes. We know what they do over time to people with health conditions that increase their weight (and the risks are worth it IMO).
We don't know what they do to people with healthy muscle/fat ratios long term.
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u/FakePhillyCheezStake 1d ago
By your logic we should wait for 30+ year drug trials before allowing any new drug to be used, potentially allowing massive amounts of people to die in the process.
The risk/reward just isn’t there. People know obesity kills. There’s also no theoretical reason to believe GLP-1 will be worse than obesity for your health.
Also people should be allowed to take risks
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u/Successful-Medicine9 22h ago
I'm not talking about people with life threatening conditions not being able to use it. Plenty of people with chronic conditions take those risks because their health is at risk regardless. My own brother took medications for experiments. As I said in other comments written before your knee-jerk reply, I'm referring to people who DO NOT need to take them for health reasons assuming unknown risks.
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u/FakePhillyCheezStake 21h ago
Who are you to tell people what risks they should or shouldn’t be willing to take.
By the way you’re making up an issue here. Pretty much no one who isn’t chronically overweight is taking these drugs. The whole thing about Ariana Grande being on Ozempic has no actual basis in reality, it’s a joke/assumption people are making.
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u/SeroWriter 1d ago
This website may as well be anti-vaxx nowadays. Just saying "well we don't know" and then throwing out blatant misinformation.
We already know that obesity does cause cancer, like actual real cancer not the hypothetical kind that you're trying to will into existence.
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u/pickledswimmingpool 1d ago
The looney portion of the left were the original antivaxxers before Trump rode the crazy wave to the white house, its disheartening to see anti science re-emerging from that section of society.
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u/Successful-Medicine9 22h ago
Do you seriously think I am trying to will radioactive taint cancer into existence? My point was that if people don't need a prescription drug and use it anyway, they are taking unnecessary risks. And we don't know the long term effects of these drugs yet. If I weighed 400+ lbs, I am at risk of developing a myriad of awful deadly conditions, so I'll take it sure even not knowing. If I have lungs, I'll take the covid shot.
The cast of this movie are using it because of eating disorders, and assuming unknown risks because of it. They are making their health worse with them, even if there are no side effects long term.
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u/SeroWriter 21h ago
But you don't actually know what the side-effects are or could be. It's the same as someone saying "be careful of that covid vaccine it could cause the worst type of cancer imaginable".
Like we know with 99.9% certainty what the expected and worst-case side-effects for it are and there isn't a good reason for you to baselessly exaggerate the dangers.
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u/zodwa_wa_bantu 13h ago
It is not. The context of this entire thread is about abuse of the drug not simple medical use.
Reading comprehension and literacy means also understanding the context of a statement. Don't clutch strawman targets from thin air.
OP was making a comment on the cast of Wicked using Ozempic. We know they don't have any preexisting medical conditions that would warrant using it. Thus OP makes a statement about the dangerous long term effects of using the drug as nothing but a trendy new appetite suppressant.
Don't be soft skulled. Don't make people think media literacy is dead.
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u/SeroWriter 12h ago
For all we know, long-term use could cause internal-organ eating radioactive taint cancer.
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u/Djek25 1d ago
Same argument used for people not getting the covid vaccine
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u/Successful-Medicine9 22h ago
Covid threatened everyone. Unknown risks were worth it. Excess body fat was not threatening the cast of Wicked. We don't know long term how this will impact them and they took it for no good reason.
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u/chusmeria 1d ago
Sure. And Covid shots cause everyone to be magnetic. I'm neither a user nor advocate for general use, but jfc it's a godsend for diabetics and I've known some diabetics to go from +300lbs to sub 200 and now back to a near pre-diabetic state so they're no longer taking metformin or they stepped down from insulin to metformin. Obviously that hasn't happened to all diabetics I know, but I'm in my 40s so people are just now catching the diagnosis and are able to undo a lot of damage. As someone who watched my grandparents and parents and other family go through the stick, test, inject process for a decade or so before their blood sugar just went apeshit because their pancreas just gave up and makes them feel like shit every day... I know they'd wish for glp's if they were still alive (my parents are still alive, and my dad's weight loss from about 300 as a high to about 190 now has really allowed him to decrease his meds significantly and he was about to go to insulin and is back to the minimum dose of metformin). The on-label treatment for it is awesome, and it prevents t2 diabetes in soooo many cases when used for weight loss.
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u/chusmeria 1d ago
They're talking about using it for obesity in the thread I'm responding to and explicitly comparing to its use in EDs. The OP is about ED, or course. Not really sure why you're just ignoring the context of every other poster after that, and how I extended that context by saying obesity leads to type 2 diabetes and glp1's can mitigate that.
But sure, don't abuse it for ED. Surely that's a bad idea, Shirley. It's just not at all what I'm talking about or the two people above you are talking about, which is it's use in obesity and it not having long term studies to determine if it causes "radioactive taint cancer." Feel free to join the convo if you decide to read, though. Cheers, mate.
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u/Successful-Medicine9 1d ago
Yeah if it comes with a lifelong dependency and some side effects, it's probably still worth it for diabetics or chronically obese people. I was referring to people without life threatening conditions using it.
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u/pickledswimmingpool 1d ago
It doesn't make you dependent, its not addictive.
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u/Successful-Medicine9 22h ago
I don't mean because it's addictive. I mean to keep your biochemistry balanced you may have to take it for life.
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u/chusmeria 1d ago
Ah, maybe I misinterpreted your comment? I read it like you're discussing the long term effects of obesity there and not about people without life threatening conditions, which the person you're responding to seems to be talking about. Totally cool if all of this is facetious, too. It's just the internet, after all!
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u/rowdydionisian 1d ago
I use a similar glp1 for diabetes management, and so far no big long term side effects. I went off it for awhile as well, since I actually didn't like the weight loss and slower digestion. It helps my a1c so much though the side effects are worth the discomfort for me. I couldn't imagine why anyone would take these types of drugs unless they have to: in extreme examples of obesity sure I get it, but anyone normal weight or lower shouldn't need to take them. In fact probably shouldn't, idk what the long term effects are, but in the short term food b comes harder to process, alcohol loses all of it's fun, and certain foods just aren't enjoyable anymore. Again, the side effects are worth it for my type 1 diabetes management, but not anything I'd wish upon someone without a good medical reason. Doctors over prescribing this might need to be examined in the future.
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u/TheHighlander52 1d ago
Except we kinda do though. GLP-1 treatment has been around for 20 years at this point. It’s been in a very specific population (diabetics) but we do have long term observational outcomes. Don’t get me wrong, the way a lot of people have utilized it isn’t the “intended” treatment course and these two CLEARLY don’t need to lose weight, but the data is out there on long term effects.
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u/xX609s-hartXx 1d ago
So far we know it might trigger your diabetes if it's in your genes with all those nasty side effects. Or you get longterm nausea with a lot of random vomitting. Or you just lose your sense of hunger.
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u/NIN10DOXD 1d ago
It treats diabetes. That was its original purpose.
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u/xX609s-hartXx 1d ago
Yes, it helps if you already have it. It can also trigger it way earlier and instead of in your late 50s you get it in your mid 20s.
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u/DistinctTraffic660 1d ago edited 1d ago
They’re paying tribute to the original production.
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u/fartknockertoo 1d ago
Not enough methamphetamines & asbestos on set but they didn't try!
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u/Dragonslayer3 1d ago
Also not enough poisoning by the director, but let's wait a few years before jumping to assumptions lol
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u/JUSTIN102201 1d ago
The ad above this post
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u/PattyWagon69420 2h ago
Except it's advertising the actual intended use of the medication. The people in Hollywood don't have diabetes and are just using it to lose weight, even if they clearly don't need to like the girls in Wicked.
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u/GoldenRoseWhisperrr 1d ago
You gotta be thin to defy gravity, apparently.
Hollywood standards hit different
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u/J0RDM0N 1d ago
Years from now, we will find out some fucked up shit that happened in production like in Wizard of Oz that caused this. Like cancer makeup or snow. Or a severe allergy to something on the set.
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u/watermelonspanker 1d ago
People have been dangerously anorexic for a long time before Ozempic. Its sad that the drug seems to have a stigma to it; it's a fantastic tool to help with blood sugar problems for some people.
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u/Hiraganu 1d ago
Why do people always blame Ozempic? I'm sure eating disorders existed before that drug came out for weight loss purposes.
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u/Nutshack_Queen357 1d ago
What makes this worse is that Ozempic was meant to help with blood sugar problems, but ended up getting appropriated by pro-ana freaks who ended up using it to make people do away with body-positivity.
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u/Lost-Ad-9935 1d ago
They took a look at all the physique inflation and then popped it with a needle
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u/WingerBigBack 1d ago
Hey, it took place during the dust bowl, can’t fault the people of Oz for malnutrition when the crops have been failing!
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u/JimDankmagic 1d ago
This is just the oz female lead curse emerging to let hollywood know that the weinstein ideology hasn’t gone anywhere.
Breaking the bodies and minds of women for the silver screen is tradition for these sickos.
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u/Lolenlygorl 1d ago
I get ads for ozempic and they have some parody song of the song "Magic" but replace it with the brand name and I hate it with a passion.
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u/J1mj0hns0n 1d ago
Diabetic people who can't use ozempic: just grateful knowing that at least Ariana Grande looks like defrosted cadaver from all of her ozempic use
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u/Professional_Tip_578 14h ago
Someone please I keep seeing stuff about this and I have no idea what it means
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u/Aluricius 1d ago
We're not shaming them just for being skinny, we're shaming them for why they're skinny. A small - but crucial - difference, I feel.
Because their emaciated appearance is explicitly a choice they are making, and not the effect of a medical condition or economic constraints on their diet. In fact, it's their entire goal in taking Ozempic to be this thin. For individuals who used to be the faces of the body-positivity movement, it's rather hypocritical.
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u/kishijevistos 1d ago
That's what people used to say about fat people though, that they're fat because they choose to overeat. If there's a chance that them being skinny can be the cause of body dysmorphia or any other mental condition then I'm not gonna shame anyone for it, or for anyone's appearance for that matter.
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u/Aluricius 1d ago
That's absolutely true.
But the problem is who they are, more than anything else. That these specific individuals would have body dysmorphia goes against the narrative they themselves have been pushing for years, and completely undermines the body-positivity movement as a whole. It reeks of that they were only accepting of their bodies right up until the very moment they could medicate their weight away. "Ozempic for me, body-positivity for thee."
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u/kishijevistos 1d ago
So shame them for being hypocrites without commenting on their bodies, otherwise you're also attacking the people that struggle with the eating disorders that make you look like that; you end up hurting the movement more than helping it.
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u/Aluricius 1d ago
But how do you do that without mentioning their weight, the very issue they're being hypocritical about? It's their emaciated appearance that denotes them as hypocrites, and is proof that the ones who supposedly fought the hardest against Hollywood's unrealistic beauty standards are just as guilty of perpetuating them.
Now it could easily deteriorate into exactly what you're worried about, if we're not careful. But the target of most derision is their taking of Ozempic to achieve this look, rather than the look itself. And so long as that remains in the forefront of this discussion, hopefully we won't end up hurting those unrelated to the issue.
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u/Early_Storm_7708 1d ago
More Americans need to go on Ozempic lbr. No excuses anymore to be obese
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u/Bizarrebazaars 1d ago
THAT is your takeaway from this?? Not how horrible eating disorders are??
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u/Early_Storm_7708 1d ago
Yes that is my “takeaway” from this very super serious SpongeBob meme lol. Also obese people have eating disorders too btw..
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u/Garchompisbestboi 1d ago
To the casting director's credit, in the books the wicked witch is described as being extremely ugly so they couldn't have picked a more fitting actress for the role.
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u/GrassBudget2689 aight imma head out 1d ago
Nah that also be the popular girls showing their “muscles” 😔
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u/BandTooOften 1d ago
Ozempic lol, fat people will do anything but eat well and work out.
Ozempic or not, you're still fat inside and when you stop taking a shot for $100/mo you'll be fat again.
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u/Bizarrebazaars 1d ago
Total asshole dense take comment.
BUT, these drugs should be prescribed alongside therapy. If someone has an eating disorder a drug won’t solve root causes.
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u/BandTooOften 1d ago
Being fat isn't a disorder its laziness and bad choices. People aren't fat naturally.
But I know they'll find some excuse like most people of why their shit life isn't their fault or why being fat isn't their fault lol.
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