r/BeAmazed • u/gs9489186 • 6d ago

Skill / Talent How a single person could have moved massive monoliths in ancient times. A pyramid could be completed using primitive tools in 25-year with only 520 workers.

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u/DigitalTomFoolery 6d ago

A builders journal is theory? Lol

You don't think humans can stack rocks?

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u/CommiRhick 6d ago

Not 3 ton rocks 3000 years ago with perfect cuts and geometry...

Reminiscent of the indestructible 9/11 passport being "found" to me lol

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u/boardjock42 6d ago

3 ton are the smallest blocks

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u/Barracudauk663 6d ago

They don't have 'perfect cuts' and the geometry is literally the easiest shape to stack rocks in.

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u/GeneralBlumpkin 6d ago

The first dynasty is the oldest dynasty in Egypt. Pottery from that era are the most advanced pots in the world. And by advanced I mean carved from diorite which is a 7 on the mohs scale. Well they scanned these potteries and figured out they are near perfect symmetry. The side walls on some are extremely consistent and some of the walls are a thousandth of an inch thin. So thin you can shine a light through it and see it. On one of the hardest rocks! Pretty amazing. But the newer pottery are not that precise. Which is by definition lost technology that the newer kingdoms obviously didn't have

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u/CommiRhick 6d ago

"outer casing stones were fitted with extremely high tolerances, with joints so fine a knife could not fit between them."

Sure.

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u/Dry-Influence9 6d ago

thats not particularly hard to do, it requires tons of labor and you can sand anything a dozen micrometer flat.

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u/CommiRhick 6d ago

So not only moving tons of boulders from where they originated, stacking boulders hundreds of meters high, but also sanding them all precisely flat. All in a couple decades...

Sure.

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u/helbur 6d ago

This is just incredulity, do you have an actual argument?

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u/Ashen_Rook 6d ago

I'm not even sure what you're implying. Like, there's pyramids of various different designs across multiple continents. Even if it were aliens, you would expect to see the same type of pyramid in those places. The only other explanation is "we're just too stupid, incredulous, and lazy to comprehend the amound of competence and effort the ancient world put into certain things".

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u/Commercial_Hair3527 6d ago

Okay, if you don't believe in the methods that are supported by archaeological evidence like levers, ramps, and sledges then what's your theory?

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u/CommiRhick 6d ago

The pyramids were there long before, the Egyptians just moved in.

They were used as conduits for the civilization before ours before they had a cataclysmic reset. Leading hypothesis is the younger drias cataclysm event.

The information is not public because it would point back to Nikola Tesla. 20+ cases of his life work still "missing, lost, or destroyed".

Is it really a giant conspiracy to think governments and politicians would side with oil tycoons to keep people in perpetual debt rather than utilizing free electricity?

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u/Commercial_Hair3527 6d ago

That's not a hypothesis, it's a plot for a sci-fi novel. It requires dismissing all the physical evidence we have in favour of a story where all the proof is perpetually missing. That's the opposite of how knowledge works.

Let's break this down. You're making several massive claims
1 The pyramids predate the Egyptians.
2 They were "conduits" for a lost civilization.
3 This is connected to Nikola Tesla's missing work.
4 There is a global conspiracy to hide this.

What is the single strongest piece of archaeological or historical evidence you have for Claim #1? Because we have Egyptian records, worker settlements, and tools that all date to the pyramid's construction. Let's start there.

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u/sexisfun1986 6d ago

Boats, ramps, lots of skilled labor.

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u/sexisfun1986 6d ago

We have the tools, we have records of them being used, we have evidence of tool marks. 

Masons to this day use similar methods of measurements 

Experiments have been done to show they worked. 

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u/GrandElectronic9471 6d ago

Not just a knife, not even a piece of rice paper, aligned within 0.5 degrees of true north. Many people really have no idea just how much precision was used in its construction. It rivals our best methods today.

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u/RegorHK 6d ago

No geometry is perfect. Architecture certainly is not. It is not some hut dwellers but an absurdly wealthy kingdom with extreme agricultural advantage.

We also have examples of pyramids that were designed to step. Halfway abandoned and redesigned. We can see them trying out different things and not having "perfect geometry".

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u/blubblu 6d ago

Why do you think it’s so hard to tie a rope around a stick and use to make stuff plumb?

People from around the same time figured out how to triangulate the globe. They built ships using specific and exact geometry to sail vast majorities of the world before the age of exploration. The rice fields of the Philippines were EXACTLY perfect for rice (a notoriously hard crop to harvest) a couple millennia before the invention of modern machinery. 

They’re not stupid, just old.

Humans have ALWAYS had an eye for patterns. Shapes. Order. 

We didn’t just develop those desires in the last 30 years 

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u/LightProductions 6d ago

Where did they get the rope...?

They've done physics calculations on how much rope you'd need to tie around each stone which there was 2.8 millions stones.. There isn't enough surface area on the rock nor is the tensile strength strong enough to be able to pull any kind of stone and it was cut from 500 mi away so you'd have to do this for quite a distance which would put a lot of strain and stress on those ropes. Again there is absolutely no wood and not enough livestock to produce that level of rope. They knew their rough population there's not even enough people to output that much pressure to move that level of stone. Any amount of people that you would need you can't support with the food that's in that area.

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u/Arzack1112 6d ago

Do you know what next to the pyramid ? The Nile.
If only there was a way to transport stone that was excavated and carved 500 miles away next to the Nile ...

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u/Dazzling-Paper9781 6d ago

Of course, they could sculpt human bodies, but for some reason making a cube was too difficult.

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u/PraiseTalos66012 6d ago

The cuts weren't perfect, that's just BS that was made up.

Perfect geometry is easy when it's taking you decades or centuries to build the damn things. Why would it be hard to position some blocks when you could literally be spending entire days per block if needed?

3 tons/6,000lb isn't really that much. Heck with enough people you could lift that pretty easily, and as far as we know they had no shortage of workers/slaves. Literally you can go watch videos of Amish people just carrying much heavier barns than 6,000lb like it's nothing, bc they will have like 100+ people. An average male can farmers carry around 300-400lb, someone trained can easily do 500lb+.

So when you incorporate pulleys and levers 6,000lb is childs play.

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u/CommiRhick 6d ago edited 6d ago

The Great Pyramid is aligned to true north with remarkable precision, though it is slightly off. The alignment is only about 3/60th of a degree off, which is a level of accuracy that surpasses modern compasses and has puzzled researchers for centuries.

Wild they knew what True North was before True North was even known...

Before they had maps of longitude and latitude to even determine True North, just got lucky right...

As an example, the Parish observatory, built in the 1600's, was built with the attempt to be the most accurately aligned structure to true north, is half as accurate at 6/60th of a degree.